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    Quote Originally Posted by 26mi235 View Post
    Really? She is not banned. She has never been banned. And she can compete now, but in a restricted set of events. She competed fairly under the rules and to talk, as some have, of stripping her of her medals and victories is, to me, ludicrous. Why not strip everyone that has ever had something that was affected by later rules.
    If the delay in implementation of the later rule was from legalistic strongarming, and not the sporting body's own intention of what and when they wanted the rule to be, I don't consider the victories enabled by the lawyer-coerced regime to be legitimate.

    It would be another massive legal battle to retroactively strip anything not based on doping or other such misdeeds, so let Semenya et al keep what they have won in the past, but that barrier isn't there for denying future awards. Naming Semenya as AOD would also rub salt into the wounds of the athletes who unjustly had their own medal and award prospects damaged by the lawyer-coerced regime that was in place.
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    the "lawyer-coerced regime" as you put it, was only in place for a very small portion of the decade
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    No brainer imo for the guys... initials are U B .
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    the "lawyer-coerced regime" as you put it, was only in place for a very small portion of the decade
    It was in place for almost the entire decade, beginning with when Semenya was cleared to run again in 2010. Without those lawyers intervening, Semenya would have been either banned outright from women's races, or required to first go through the same full year of testosterone reduction that was applicable to transgender athletes.
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    Gotta be Bolt. Too bad the decade wasn't '08 to '17, though.
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    Coe is working on changing the years for the next decade - very innovative.
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    Of course, we could vote for Tom Brady instead of Bolt....
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Rorick View Post
    Coe is working on changing the years for the next decade - very innovative.
    I think Coe is trying to make sure there is another decade....which isn't a sure thing.
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    Who did fan pay to see the most? Usain Bolt. Was he over rated ? Heck no.

    Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce is female choice for me being so consistent in 100m, winning individual golds or ranked on the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobguild76 View Post
    Regarding the women,
    the AOY compilations, not including 2019, are as follows,

    AW - 41 (3 AOY)
    Adams - 37 (2 AOY)
    Perkovic - 28 (no AOY)
    Ibarguen - 23 (no AOY)
    Felix - 21 (no AOY)
    Ayana - 19 (no AOY)
    SAFP - 19 (no AOY)
    Semenya - 19 (1 AOY)

    Of those, I would think that only SAFP will add to her resume this year. In my opinion, I would place her above Felix and Ayana, even with her bronze at Rio.

    It seems to be a two woman race between AW & Adams. Behind them, I see Perkovic & SAFP for 3/4 (either way), Ibarguen in 5th, Felix & Semenya in 6/7 (either way), and then the rest.
    And if you then factor in WRs and all time best performances then as much as I would love to see Valerie come out on top, AW would have to be a runaway winner.

    But AW has a massive advantage in her event not being contaminated in the same way as the women’s shot has been by historical druggies.
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