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    I seem to remember a quote from Ms. Cain at the end of Her junior year of HS saying more or less that the previous year had been a disaster and she reached out to
    Salazar in desperation.

    This whole thing is a lot more complicated than most of us are aware of. Damning Salazar seems to be the order of the day, but I think we are going to find a lot more complicity by a lot of people claiming innocence and victim hood. Five years from now, a good investigative reporter could write an interesting book about the life and death of the Nike Oregon Project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    I seem to remember a quote from Ms. Cain at the end of Her junior year of H
    S saying more or less that the previous year had been a disaster and she reached out to
    Salazar in desperation.
    Her junior year was when she made the 1500m final at the World Championships, which obviously wasn't a disaster. That year (2013) she was already being coached by Salazar, but from afar while she lived with her family, so she wasn't yet under pressure to be malnourished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 18.99s View Post
    Her junior year was when she made the 1500m final at the World Championships, which obviously wasn't a disaster. That year (2013) she was already being coached by Salazar, but from afar while she lived with her family, so she wasn't yet under pressure to be malnourished.
    My comment was in reference to her sophomore year and made at the end of her junior year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 18.99s View Post
    Was any other teenage girl ever in his training group? Apparently he didn't get the memo that developing teenagers can't thrive on the same sort of dietary restrictions as 22- to 30-year-olds.
    Amber Trotter may have lived with the Salazar family.
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    Caitlin Chock, not Trotter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black September View Post
    Caitlin Chock, not Trotter.
    She seemed to have nothing bad to say about her time with NOP but eating disorders did come up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    She seemed to have nothing bad to say about her time with NOP but eating disorders did come up.
    She said nothing bad about them ... yet. Before the doping suspension and disbanding of the NOP, she may have been too scared to come forward. Now that credibility and public opinion is not on the side of Nike and Salazar, we may hear her say something in the near future.

    Based on Caitlin Chock's IAAF profile (https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/united...n-chock-202135), she got slower each year from age 18 to 20, and then disappeared from the scene. Mary Cain's progression has a similar pattern -- slower from age 18 to 20, then no more performances worthy of showing up on her IAAF profile. Two teenage girls ruined by Salazar's group.
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    https://www.runnersworld.com/races-p...berto-salazar/

    http://www.saltyrunning.com/caitlin-chock/

    Just FYI, here is an essay by and interview with Caitlin Chock, from Feb 2013, describing her time with Nike, NOP, Salazar. No doubt there is more to the story, partly because there is usually more to every story. She acknowledged that she struggled with eating issues from HS on. How she might describe her experience now, in relation to 2013, is a matter of speculation, until/if she ever has anything else to say on the subject.

    As for the end of the career as a runner, a major part of that can't be laid at Salazar's doorstep: She was on a run in March 2010 and was hit by a car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Po View Post
    As for the end of the career as a runner, a major part of that can't be laid at Salazar's doorstep: She was on a run in March 2010 and was hit by a car.
    Her career had already ended in 2006 at 20 years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 18.99s View Post
    But he encouraged and shamed her to maintain a specific weight, which he thought was healthy but actually was otherwise.

    Was any other teenage girl ever in his training group? Apparently he didn't get the memo that developing teenagers can't thrive on the same sort of dietary restrictions as 22- to 30-year-olds.
    Here's another memo he didn't get:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435916/
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