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    The have removed the snow from the entire Wisconsin/Tom Zimmer XC Course, although with frozen ground and such there are little bits stuck to the ground where the plows the first pass drove over the ground. Race time tomorrow the temps are supposed to be mid-30s, but just getting there so that the ground will not be muddy. The Great Lakes Region may get as many as six teams for both men and women. Together with the Pacific and Mountain regions they will take most of the 13 at-large bids.
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    40s for the Western Regional in Colfax, Washington tomorrow.
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    Buffalo course has been ruled unsafe
    I'm not against having a regional in a cold place. But a snowbelt city seems stupid. The whole CC schedule circa 2019 is garbage. Too much travel to Midwest and a recruiting disadvantage for Eastern schools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam$ View Post
    The whole CC schedule circa 2019 is garbage. Too much travel to Midwest and a recruiting disadvantage for Eastern schools.
    I am not understanding your comment. Does the 'travel to the Midwest' refer to invitations (e.g., the Nuttycomb Invite in Madison, WI)? Clearly they are not traveling to the Midwest for the Regional meet. Are you referring to not having the NCAA Championship at a site closer to the East coast. Note that Madison, Terre Haute, and Louisville are much closer to the east coast than to the west coast, and two are in the Eastern Time Zone, while Madison is just west of it.

    One problem is that I do not think that there are a lot of good courses on the east coast, certainly they have not been on par with Madison and Terre Haute, but are getting much better now. In two years the NCAA meet will be in Florida...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 26mi235 View Post
    I am not understanding your comment. Does the 'travel to the Midwest' refer to invitations (e.g., the Nuttycomb Invite in Madison, WI)? Clearly they are not traveling to the Midwest for the Regional meet. Are you referring to not having the NCAA Championship at a site closer to the East coast. Note that Madison, Terre Haute, and Louisville are much closer to the east coast than to the west coast, and two are in the Eastern Time Zone, while Madison is just west of it.

    One problem is that I do not think that there are a lot of good courses on the east coast, certainly they have not been on par with Madison and Terre Haute, but are getting much better now. In two years the NCAA meet will be in Florida...
    Having the meet in the south is unfair to northern runners. It was in Tucson twice in the 90’s and many runners appeared to have trouble with the heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maggot View Post
    Having the meet in the south is unfair to northern runners. It was in Tucson twice in the 90ís and many runners appeared to have trouble with the heat.
    Maybe we can get the Qatarians to build us a climate-controlled XC course.
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    Interesting results today....

    In the Western Regional...Portland and Stanford AQ....with Oregon, Washington and Boise State almost certainly in...
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    Via LetsRun - their projections/calculations using the algorithm are the same as FloTrack. Could possibly be wrong if some teams in a meet did not meet the participation rules (at least 4 from the Regionals team) to losses to other teams (i.e., when the teams get points).
    1 Purdue
    2 Notre Dame
    3 Villanova
    4 Georgetown
    5 Tulsa
    6 Iowa St
    7 NAU
    8 Colorado
    9 Harvard
    10 Syracuse
    11 Ole Miss
    12 Middle Tennessee
    13 Texas
    14 Arkansas
    15 Virginia
    16 Va Tech
    17 Portland
    18 Stanford
    At-large qualifiers
    19 Oregon
    20 BYU
    21 Michigan
    22 Indiana
    23 Wisconsin
    24 NC State
    25 Utah St
    26 Washington
    27 Boise St
    28 Furman
    29 Iona
    30 Alabama
    31 Florida St

    https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/11...ed-qualifiers/
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    women

    Automatic qualifiers
    1 Michigan St
    2 Michigan
    3 Penn St
    4 Villanova
    5 Illinois
    6 Tulsa
    7 BYU
    8 New Mexico
    9 Harvard
    10 Cornell
    11 Florida St
    12 Ole Miss
    13 Arkansas
    14 Texas
    15 NC State
    16 Furman
    17 Stanford
    18 Washington
    At-large qualifiers
    19 Wisconsin
    20 Boise St
    21 Air Force
    22 Colorado
    23 Utah
    24 NAU
    25 Ohio St
    26 Notre Dame
    27 Oregon
    28 Boston College
    29 Columbia
    30 Minnesota
    31 Indiana
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    For the women:
    Cornell, ranked just 11th in NE finshed 2nd for an Auto
    -Ranked teams who failed to qualify: #23 Virginia Tech, #24 Butler, #25 Oklahoma State, #29 Syracuse, #30 Cal Baptist (ineligible to compete at regionals)
    -Unranked teams who qualified: Cornell, Texas, Indiana, Boston College, Tulsa, Harvard,

    Harvard won both the Men's and Women's races

    Men:Several rated teams had problems
    1 OkSt #1 (Isai Rodregue) finished 66th, he was fourth last year and OSU DNQ for the first time since 2002

    2 UCLA #1 (Brandt) did not run and finished 8th

    3 Wisconsin #2 (Olin Hacker, son of Tim Hacker, winner in 1985(?)) did not run but got in in 5th, with the top five teams separated by seconds (or less).

    Winnie Kelati might be the favorite again as she ran 18:58 to win by 57 seconds (over Kurgat, although BYU rested their #1 and did not race hard). I do wonder why Kelati ran that hard
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