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    US yearly lists before 1957?
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    I see US year lists for 1953 and 1955 in T&FN / TN , but no others before 1957. Where would I find them?

    Or world lists before 1950?

    They must exist, yes?
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    There was a series of books Track and Field Performances through the Years with Volume 1 starting around 1920..with yearly lists....I have a couple of them...
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    There were 3 volumes...

    Vol. 1 : 1929-1936.
    Vol. 2 : 1937-1944.
    Vol. 3 : 1945-1950.
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    I bought them from TandFnews years ago...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor Dary View Post
    There were 3 volumes...

    Vol. 1 : 1929-1936.
    Vol. 2 : 1937-1944.
    Vol. 3 : 1945-1950.
    And different groups are now working on 1900-1910 and 1910-1920
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor Dary View Post
    There were 3 volumes...

    Vol. 1 : 1929-1936.
    Vol. 2 : 1937-1944.
    Vol. 3 : 1945-1950.
    Quote Originally Posted by bambam1729 View Post
    And different groups are now working on 1900-1910 and 1910-1920
    And in between there is a 4th Quercetani/Magnusson volume covering 1921-28.

    The OP asks for US lists, and although there are plenty of US entries, these volumes are World Lists.

    The women's lists in these volumes may be limited in depth. The definitive work on Women's Yearly Performer World Lists prior to 1963 is:

    https://www.sendsport.net/product-en...d-revised.html
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    So the answer is 'no' for historical USA lists?

    And the men's world lists are out-of-print / unavailable?

    And the women's lists are also unavailable!

    Well, that's a sad state of affairs for T&F statistical inquiry - not that people are lining up at Wal-Mart for T&F stat books . . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atticus View Post
    I see US year lists for 1953 and 1955 in T&FN / TN , but no others before 1957. Where would I find them?

    ...
    you're forgetting that in essence, there was virtually no U.S. activity after the Nationals in most years.

    So, for example, if you go to the July '54 edition you'll find a U.S. list with the introduction beginning, "The 1954 U.S. season is now history...."

    There may have been a stray U.S. mark or two after that I guess, but not enough of significance to warrant another list. I'm guessing that in other "missing" years (I just picked that one at random) you'll find the same mindse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gh View Post
    So, for example, if you go to the July '54 edition you'll find a U.S. list with the introduction beginning, "The 1954 U.S. season is now history...." . . . I'm guessing that in other "missing" years.
    OK, I'll go look, but isn't it a little 'concerning', esp. to a stat guy like yourself, that we don't have definitive (as much as they can be) year lists going back to at least back to the 30s,, when T&F started becoming a 'major' sport?

    Edit - In 1956, when the season ended with the Nov/Dec Olympics, there is no list after it.

    Edit 2 - looking at 1954, there were all sorts of 'post-season' meets with huge results from USA stars like Bright (800), Shelton (HJ), Gordien (DT-WR), Miller (JT-WR)
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