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    And who does the article quote...no names of top athletes, a former champion and Steve Magness who is hardly an unbiased opinion on Nike products....Anyways it would be a huge lawsuit by Nike if they were banned....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzcyclist View Post
    That would depend on what unit of measure they're using. 4% greater energy efficiency doesn't mean 4% greater velocity.
    Exactly my point. It's a meaningless term in this context.
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    Let's see what Seb Coe does.
    This whole concept of unfair advantage as set out in rule 143.2 is nonsensical, but then I suppose if it was logical and common sense, then it wouldn't be IAAF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuariki View Post
    Let's see what Seb Coe does.
    This whole concept of unfair advantage as set out in rule 143.2 is nonsensical, but then I suppose if it was logical and common sense, then it wouldn't be IAAF.
    It does ....sounds like something cooked up when Puma and Adidas were bitter rivals....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor Dary View Post
    How are you going to ban on thickness? Hoka has done it for years and a lot of recreational runners swear by them...
    They did put a limit on sole thickness in the HJ after built-up shoes were introduced, so it can potentially be done. But is that really necessary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powell View Post
    They're talking about unfair advantage. But how do you determine what is fair?
    devil's advocate question: does that apply to doping as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powell View Post
    They did put a limit on sole thickness in the HJ after built-up shoes were introduced, so it can potentially be done. But is that really necessary?
    Comparing high jumping and distance running is crazy....the goal in marathons is not how high you can go on every step.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gh View Post
    devil's advocate question: does that apply to doping as well?
    It does. But with regard to doping, there are clear rules on what is and isn't allowed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gh View Post
    devil's advocate question: does that apply to doping as well?
    The problem with doping is it is not great for the health....if taking EPO and testosterone had zero negatives on health I wouldn't have any problem with it....

    And who are these shoes really unfair to...it seems almost all the top marathon runners run for Nike.....this isn't the same as 30 years ago when NB, Puma, Tiger etc were major players in the distance scene...

    It would be one thing if it was some obscure company with a few athletes that had these shoes...but it really the exact opposite.
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    Exactly my point. It's a meaningless term in this context.
    It's not meaningless just because you don't know the units of measure or how to convert one to the other.
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