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    Quote Originally Posted by The Flying Pigdog View Post
    FWIW, here are PJ's splits for the race, minor differences:

    Salwa Eid Naser
    12.1 - 23.2 - 35.1 - 48.14
    12.1 + 11.1 + 11.9 + 13.1 (+25.0)

    Shaunae Miller
    12.1 - 23.6 - 35.7 - 48.37
    12.1 + 11.5 + 12.1 + 12.7 (+24.8)
    Here are my best calculations using a 30 frames/sec video:

    Naser: 12.07, 23.2, 35.17, 48.14
    Miller: 12.0, 23.6, 35.7, 49.37

    I don't know how anyone could have gotten 11.7 for Miller's first 100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Flying Pigdog View Post
    FWIW, here are PJ's splits for the race, minor differences:

    Salwa Eid Naser
    12.1 - 23.2 - 35.1 - 48.14
    12.1 + 11.1 + 11.9 + 13.1 (+25.0)

    Shaunae Miller
    12.1 - 23.6 - 35.7 - 48.37
    12.1 + 11.5 + 12.1 + 12.7 (+24.8)

    Marita Koch
    11.70 - 22.47 - 34.22 - 47.60
    11.70 + 10.77 + 11.75 + 13.38 (+25.13)
    10.77! What on earth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by etuoyo View Post
    10.77! What on earth?
    Quote Originally Posted by tandfman View Post
    And the elephant on the message board continues to be the likely wind assistance in that portion of the race, something discussed A LOT a long time ago. And people continue to ignore it whenever it's suggested that not only CAN you have a wind-aided 400, but THAT 400 was THE prime example.

    Look at the white flag at the gun and which way it's moving.
    Last edited by trackCanuck; 10-19-2019 at 12:11 PM.
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    It may be possible to have a mostly wind aided 400m but that flag doesn't tell anyone anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by etuoyo View Post
    10.77! What on earth?
    10.77 and 22.47 would normally lead to an implosion. Her last 100 was slower than Naser and significantly slower and Miller, but the fact that she could hold on for 13.38 off that pace is amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotDutra5 View Post
    It may be possible to have a mostly wind aided 400m but that flag doesn't tell anyone anything.
    It's blowing to the side and also toward the 100 meter start line. That's already helpful for the backstretch and it may have "straightened out" more by then.
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    Naser is due to compete in the World Military Games starting next week. She's been entered in 4 events - 200, 400 and two relays. Not sure how well she'll have kept her form, but it could be interesting to see what she's going to do at 200.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trackCanuck View Post
    It's blowing to the side and also toward the 100 meter start line. That's already helpful for the backstretch and it may have "straightened out" more by then.
    "May have's" aside, that flag tells us nothing in regards to how it helped or hindered the athletes in that particular race.
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