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    Update after 1500:

    Rank
    Name
    Score
    Difference from
    Initial Projection
    1
    Kaul
    8691
    +332
    2
    Uibo
    8604
    +350
    3
    Warner
    8529
    -179
    4
    Shkurenyov
    8494
    +371
    5
    LePage
    8445
    +176
    6
    Őiglane
    8297
    +145
    7
    Braun
    8222
    +36
    8
    Simmons
    8151
    +212
    9
    van der Plaetsen
    8125
    +37
    10
    Nowak
    8122
    +93
    11
    Dubler
    8101
    +28
    12
    Wiesiołek
    8064
    +264
    13
    Zhuk
    8058
    -11
    14
    H. Williams
    7892
    -66
    15
    Samuelsson
    7860
    -163
    16
    Ushiro
    7545
    -261
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    For what it's worth, for the 16 athletes who finished the event—and avoided a zero along the way, the average difference between the actual scores and my initial projected scores is 85 points, or 1.03%.
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    Has anyone ever went from last (100m) to first (overall) in a championship decathlon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Kritzler View Post
    Has anyone ever went from last (100m) to first (overall) in a championship decathlon?
    The closest I can remember to Kaul is Christian Schenk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickstat View Post
    The website Decathlon 2000 lists 123 decathletes all-time whose best score is 8312 or more (last updated 21 July 2019). Kaul's 11.27 100m is slower than that of every decathlete on the list including his previous best decathlon at the European Under 23s this year.
    That is very surprising, I can only imagine that athletes that are natural throwers will never find their way to the decathlon if they don't show really good foot speed early on.

    Looking at Kaul, he could certainly get down to 10.8 and make improvement in his LJ, 400.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Kritzler View Post
    Has anyone ever went from last (100m) to first (overall) in a championship decathlon?
    he wasn't last, although he was darn close. But I can't remember anywho who was "out of it" for so long in a major decathlon. His overall place after each event, oh so slowly working his way up:

    100—20th
    LJ—19th
    SP—16th
    HJ—12th
    400—11th
    110H—11th
    DT—9th
    PV—6th
    JT—3rd
    1500—1st
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    Pretty amazing rise.
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    Once he start clearing good heights, I thought that he was going to win. He was, by far, the best in the field in the last two events and figured to make up hundreds of points. Of course, 79m was not predicted by a lot of people, although his camp might of had a good idea it was possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gh View Post
    he wasn't last, although he was darn close. But I can't remember anywho who was "out of it" for so long in a major decathlon. His overall place after each event, oh so slowly working his way up:

    100—20th
    LJ—19th
    SP—16th
    HJ—12th
    400—11th
    110H—11th
    DT—9th
    PV—6th
    JT—3rd
    1500—1st
    Interesting how steady that rise looks at first glance. It's actually slightly deceptive because his best 2 events in decathlon terms are the last 2 and by the 8th event the gaps between positions will tend to be greater in points than in the earlier stages. I assume if the JT and 1500 had been events 4 and 5, he would have gained significantly more than 5 places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleRBar View Post
    Pretty amazing rise.
    He is an interesting model for a decathlete. Great throwing shoulders and great vertical jumping ability. Same model as Christian Schenk and Lionel Suarez. Great company to be in. It might be a very much unexplored model.

    By the way Schenk was 6-7 and Suarez was under 6-0. Kaul is 6-3. I would have thought that these kinds of athletes can only come in tall frames but apparently it is not the case.
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