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    Quote Originally Posted by JRM View Post
    Well, it should be pointed out that sprinters do not maintain a constant speed during the race. It's positive acceleration through about 60m, and negative acceleration from there on out. There's nothing to rule out an instantaneous speed of 28-29mph (about 12.5-13m/s) if it's bookended by slower speeds.
    Would the replay video of the recent DL short sprints from Welklasse be an example of this?
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    Im imagining a drone following one of the track events and a Javelin just taking it out mid race.

    I also remember back in 2009 or 2010, David Neville was impeded by a camera at the 200m mark of a 400m race. Not even a drone, just a camera on a stand (I think) that went too low. Drones are very very reliable these days, but I'm not sure I would elect for them to be added to Worlds/Olympics yet. Most angles needed from overhead seem to be covered. Start with smaller meets and perfect the process first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATK View Post
    Im imagining a drone following one of the track events and a Javelin just taking it out mid race.
    Since the best drone angle would be over the track, that javelin would be taking out a runner or two also!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRM View Post
    Well, it should be pointed out that sprinters do not maintain a constant speed during the race. It's positive acceleration through about 60m, and negative acceleration from there on out. There's nothing to rule out an instantaneous speed of 28-29mph (about 12.5-13m/s) if it's bookended by slower speeds.
    But there have been enough races with accurate splits taken to know it just doesn't happen. Bolt didn't break 0.80 even in his 9.58 WR race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powell View Post
    But there have been enough races with accurate splits taken to know it just doesn't happen. Bolt didn't break 0.80 even in his 9.58 WR race.
    Facts not in evidence (tho perhaps true).
    We have am approximation of a 10m segment. What we don't have are intantaneous readouts. I have no trouble believing that Bolt ran an instantaneous speed equivalent to a sub-.80.
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    Geez.
    Can we just be excited about investment in the coverage of the sport?
    Some cameras will end up not being great. Some might!
    But IMHO, as much as I love the sport some races are hard to follow. The 400 for instance, we're all just sort of guessing until they flatten out on the final straightaway. Couldn't some graphics of their speeds and new camera angles along the way help make the sport easier to follow?!
    I work in advertising and drone cameras are phenomenal - they now use them inside sets in lieu of large heavy dollies and cranes.
    Will there be some silly useless shots? Yes. But 3 cheers to Doha for investing and trying to plus up the game!
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    I must confess to be eager to see what comes out of this. Like others have mentioned, I am a bit worried that some producer will be so enamored of the new shots that he forgets to follow the competition. One example of a great improvement was the implementation of cameras moving along with the athletes.

    New camera angles sound like fun. As I mentioned in another thread, I don't recall seeing the shot put camera view in Andujar used anywhere else. It was easier to appreciate the effort when you could see the athlete, the get an idea of where the shot was headed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBaroo View Post
    Couldn't some graphics of their speeds and new camera angles along the way help make the sport easier to follow?!
    I agree that speed data would be a welcome addition to help draw in the average viewer. It would add more appreciation to the race that was just run.

    I've always thought that an overlay of the WR race on a playback would be fun, too. Most 100m finals, for example, are shot from the same general angle. Have a CGI-Bolt running his 9.58s next to them (or in the centre lane) to gauge the race. It's a similar idea to how they show the field event WRs (albeit those tend to just be red lines).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRM View Post
    Have a CGI-Bolt running his 9.58s next to them (or in the centre lane) to gauge the race.
    ?!
    Wouldn't that just make for constantly disappointing races?
    I hate (HATE) when the announcers start talking about WR paces and then act all disappointed when the runner can't stay on it, even when it's an otherwise brilliant race and time!
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    One of the good things about many telecasts these days (including the Diamond League, IIRC) is that they no longer put the WR on the screen before the race--just the meet record and the world leader. And the announcers don't mention those numbers, so viewers' attention isn't focused on them. Big improvement.
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