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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor Dary View Post
    Meanwhile....in the Times today...

    Tua Tagovailoa Was Injured Again. Should He Have Been Playing?


    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/16/s....co/3p2bcfc2BE
    I can't read the article but he was injured in the 2nd quarter. I find the questioning of Tua playing at the time to be pretty stupid and/or hindsight.
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    More of a question whether he should have playing at all so soon after the ankle surgery....

    Tua Tagovailoa’s Return From Injury for Alabama-L.S.U. Comes With Risk

    The Alabama quarterback, who is managing an ankle sprain, could be the top pick in the N.F.L. draft next April — and get a $25 million signing bonus.


    TUSCALOOSA, Ala. — Three weeks ago, the star Alabama quarterback Tua Tagovailoa hobbled off the field late in the first half against Tennessee. He ducked into an injury tent along the sideline, then emerged and walked with a slight limp up a tunnel to the locker room. The next day, the school announced that he’d had surgery on his right ankle.

    Clanton said there are also some in the medical community who question how quickly players are sent back on the field.

    “You’d hate for something bad to happen to a player who has the prospects Tua has for a professional career,” Clanton said.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/09/s...?module=inline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor Dary View Post
    More of a question whether he should have playing at all so soon after the ankle surgery....
    If he was cleared to play in the first place than the complaining that he should have been out of there in the 2nd quarter makes no sense.

    Maybe Baylor should have yanked their QB after scoring right before the half last night as well.
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    Cleared to play indeed...from the Times article...

    " A recent National Athletic Trainers Association survey of nearly 1,800 college athletic trainers found that nearly one in five trainers reported a coach playing an athlete who had been deemed medically unfit, and more than one-third said a coach had influenced a hiring or firing on the sports medicine staff."
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    So now we're going to deal in a theory unproven in this case because a guy who had ankle surgery ended getting yanked down Bo Jackson style.
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    I suspect if Tua had been in the NFL they wouldn't have rushed him back so soon after ankle surgery, a long term investment...but in college football, especially a place like Alabama, players are expendable...especially true if they aren't returning next year...

    Personally I don't give a toss about Tua one way or the other...but a parent or player always has to remember there is no incentive for coaches like Saban to have your interests in mind....
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotDutra5 View Post
    I can't read the article but he was injured in the 2nd quarter. I find the questioning of Tua playing at the time to be pretty stupid and/or hindsight.
    Yeah, Joey Galloway made the point that he's never seen a coach, at any level, call off the dogs in the first half no matter how big the rout. This morning on local talk radio, former LSU Tiger and New England Patriot quarterback Rohan Davey made the same point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor Dary View Post
    Personally I don't give a toss about Tua one way or the other...but a parent or player always has to remember there is no incentive for coaches like Saban to have your interests in mind....
    That's true but there is a lot of overlap between a college coach's interests and a college player's interests. That's why you see coaches so involved in their schools' annual Pro Days, making sure their outgoing players are shown in the best light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzcyclist View Post
    Yeah, Joey Galloway made the point that he's never seen a coach, at any level, call off the dogs in the first half no matter how big the rout. This morning on local talk radio, former LSU Tiger and New England Patriot quarterback Rohan Davey made the same point.
    Indeed...whether he should have playing in the first half is moot....

    But as the Times alluded to was whether he should have been in the game at all....an NFL QB would almost certainly would not come back that fast...

    And imagine leaving it up to college player....talk about dodging responsibility...

    "Saban said he will first ask the player not whether he wants to play — because they all do — but what he can do.

    And then?

    “He’s always made great choices and decisions,” Saban said of Tagovailoa. “He’s smart, he’s bright and I don’t think he would put himself in a position, nor would we want him to put himself in a position where what he does moving forward would have any effect on his future.”

    That is a lot to ask of a 21-year-old — maybe even more than asking him to try beating L.S.U."
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    There's been a lot of gloom and doom in Baton Rouge the last couple of days despite LSU's 10-0 record and #1 ranking. Most fans don't believe they can win a national title as presently constructed and this morning a co-worker said they were "nothing but a Big 12 team".

    https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...e2be98580.html
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