'19 Paris DL

[gm]

So, why are they asking for 49.5 when even at their best that would still be silly? 49.5 + 53 or 54 is no way to run your best 800.

According to whom?

[LuckySpikes]

According to whom?

According to logic and according to everything that's been learned about efficient running over the years. Knackering yourself out in the first 400 so that you're treading water in the last 200 is not the way to run your fastest 800. Closer to even pace is a more efficient way to use your energy.

[gh]

So, why are they asking for 49.5 when even at their best that would still be silly? 49.5 + 53 or 54 is no way to run your best 800.

on the other hand, 49.28/51.63 worked just fine for Rudisha :-)

[LuckySpikes]

on the other hand, 49.28/51.63 worked just fine for Rudisha :-)

Yeah ... but there's quite a difference between 51.63 and 53 or 54 and an even bigger difference between 51.63 and 54.6 which is what McBride ran the 2nd lap in last night.

[gm]

According to logic and according to everything that's been learned about efficient running over the years. Knackering yourself out in the first 400 so that you're treading water in the last 200 is not the way to run your fastest 800. Closer to even pace is a more efficient way to use your energy.

Not the same for every athlete.

[Atticus]

Not the same for every athlete.

The most common way to an elite mark seems to be a 2-second positive split, i.e., 51-53 to run 1:44. Only Wottle and a few others have succeeded at the top by laying off the pace and running even splits (or even **GASP** negative splits).

[Alan Shank]

Shubenkov stumbled and fell across the line in winning in Rabat back in June. this was his first race since then.

Stumbled, hell, he was tackled by McLeod, had a huge strawberry on his shoulder, very, very tender, kept telling other runners to touch it. He hadn't raced since them. He got a horrible start, then appeared to "mail it in".
Cheers,
Alan Shank

[Alan Shank]

I wish we would, but to me it was obvious long before this year. And I am a bit skeptical of the Jamaican times in their nationals. When I see a couple of 10.72s at worlds I'll believe it, but we won't.

Shelly-Ann ran 10.74 in Lausanne, with less aiding wind than in Jamaica, then 10.77 in Birmingham. Do you believe those?
Cheers,
Alan Shank

[Alan Shank]

Which is a surprise because both Price and Abda have rabbited a couple of times this year and they were not too bad.

Abda has been hitting the times asked for, consistently. The question is, who is asking for 49? The Raevyn Rogers paid a horrible price for going out in 55.7; Rogers' last 100 was 17.2!
Cheers,
Alan Shank

[Alan Shank]

on the other hand, 49.28/51.63 worked just fine for Rudisha :-)

2.35 /= 3.5 or 4.5
Cheers,
Alan Shank