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    the addition of the silly mixed-sex 4x4 has complicated long-sprint doubling (not that they didn't get it wrong in most previous years as well)
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    Is there a reason why a set schedule is not always used every year for OG/WC?
    Do they just want to create random discussion about if a double is possible or not?
    Accommodate the 1/2, 2/4, 15/5 5/10. Maybe even the 8/15 if you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atticus View Post
    Cheng takes down a good mJT field right at the end.

    mHJ continues to struggle as Starc wins at 2.30.
    Yeah, what's with the Germans in the Jav. Are they sandbagging?

    Glad to see Starc clearing 2.30 again. Maybe 2.35 is enough to win in Doha. They all seem to be gone. Ukhov, Lysenko, Drouin, Barshim and Bondarenko. injured or done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATK View Post
    Is there a reason why a set schedule is not always used every year for OG/WC?
    Probably that no-one can agree as to what the best schedule would actually be.

    The only conventions that have remained constant in my living memory is that 100/200, 800/1500 & 5000/10000 (&SP/DT & LJ/TJ??) are feasible along with the 4x100 not clashing with 100/200 and 4x400 with 400.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Per Andersen View Post
    Yeah, what's with the Germans in the Jav. Are they sandbagging?

    Glad to see Starc clearing 2.30 again. Maybe 2.35 is enough to win in Doha. They all seem to be gone. Ukhov, Lysenko, Drouin, Barshim and Bondarenko. injured or done.
    I doubt they are sandbagging en masse. I think by chance many of them are off-form at the same time while last year it was the opposite of that.
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    The schedule continues to be a problem even with fewer rounds. In 96 there were 4 rounds in the 200 and 400 and they still found a way to let athletes double. Just 3 rounds in both now but there’s no leeway.

    The schedule in London worked well, 6 rounds in 6 days for men and women
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    The Bham stadium is very open and often windy, so I am not surprised the times were down. There was also a chill in the air and intermittent light rain.

    Brilliant Jumping from Thiam though, she will be threatening the European Record in Doha. 7100 is possible. Just when it looked like KJT could challenge her for gold this year, the Belgian goes and sets a massive PB and beats KJT in an event KJT could/should have an advantage in, again. The Brit is back to relying on her 200/800 advantage now - which on paper is roughly the same as Thiam's advantage in the SP/JT - and hope she can get an advantage in the first event, as she should do with her superior speed. But though on paper it could be close, one feels Thiam will not only out-jump and out-throw her, but be close enough in the running events to win (and set a big score in the process).

    Great sprinting from Pinto. The last time a German woman beat the reigning US Champions over 100 & 200 was....forever ago (Krabbe back in 91!). Her move to Reider has massively helped her.

    SMU, in one of her beloved outer lanes, just beating DAS. I wonder would she have done the same from lane 4? Always getting your preferred lane 6 or 7 in big DL meets is great, but it doesn't represent what could happen in a Champs where she could end up with lane 4 or 5. IIRC, the last time SMU ran a big race not in lane 6 or 7 was London 2017. With the announcement that she will only do the 400 now, I really hope that whoever wins in Doha at least beats SMU once on the circuit, otherwise it will be a slightly hollow win.
    Schippers said before the meet she was back in a heavy training cycle because she's playing catch up. It showed, it was her worst run, time-wise, on the DL circuit. But then, she beat Okagbare, world number 2 on times & the clear winner at Pre, to further underline all these women are competing at different stages of training. She has 5 weeks, but the alarm bells must be ringing in the Dutch camp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiederganger View Post
    The Brit is back to relying on her 200/800 advantage now - which on paper is roughly the same as Thiam's advantage in the SP/JT
    On paper it isn't. In the 200/800, the sum of KJT's PBs scores 2099 to 1832 for Nafi, but in the SP/JT, it's 1929 for Nafi vs. 1460 for KJT. Thiam gains 200 points more in the throws than she loses on the track. The key question is whether she can get back to her JT best after the injury that hampered her throwing in Talence. We know she's in great shape in pretty much everything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Per Andersen View Post
    Yeah, what's with the Germans in the Jav. Are they sandbagging?
    We'll see in Doha, but they just might be in training (less rest) in order to peak at the WC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiederganger View Post
    Great sprinting from Pinto. The last time a German woman beat the reigning US Champions over 100 & 200 was....forever ago (Krabbe back in 91!). Her move to Reider has massively helped her.

    SMU, in one of her beloved outer lanes, just beating DAS. I wonder would she have done the same from lane 4? Always getting your preferred lane 6 or 7 in big DL meets is great, but it doesn't represent what could happen in a Champs where she could end up with lane 4 or 5. IIRC, the last time SMU ran a big race not in lane 6 or 7 was London 2017. With the announcement that she will only do the 400 now, I really hope that whoever wins in Doha at least beats SMU once on the circuit, otherwise it will be a slightly hollow win.
    Schippers said before the meet she was back in a heavy training cycle because she's playing catch up. It showed, it was her worst run, time-wise, on the DL circuit. But then, she beat Okagbare, world number 2 on times & the clear winner at Pre, to further underline all these women are competing at different stages of training. She has 5 weeks, but the alarm bells must be ringing in the Dutch camp.
    Pinto did indeed look great, looked so much taller in her running, hips high, so when she got into full flow, she looked great and moved away from the rest of the field. Is she allowed to double in the 100 and 200 or do he German selectors want/tell her to choose?

    6m off the pace is a big distance for Okagbare and Schippers in five weeks and if conditioning is the issue post injury, that's going to be harder to find for the 200m than perhaps the 100m. Okagbare was pretty philosophical in her post race interview and the need to focus on herself and not others around her.
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