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    Quote Originally Posted by TN1965 View Post
    Ummm... Hassan cannot win both 1500 and 5000. Does this write know the schedule?
    Hassan has a choice. She either runs the 10,000 and 1500, or she runs the 10,000 and 5000. She can't run the 1500 and 5000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TWalsh View Post
    Hassan has choice. She either runs the 10,000 and 1500, or she runs the 10,000 and 5000. She can't run the 1500 and 5000.
    That's what the German fed just declared for Klosterhalfen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TWalsh View Post
    Hassan has a choice. She either runs the 10,000 and 1500, or she runs the 10,000 and 5000. She can't run the 1500 and 5000.
    I think TN1965 was referring to the writer of that article about Kenya's medal prospects; he mentioned Hassan as a serious "barrier" to Kenyan medal chances in both the 15 and 5, as though he (or she) wasn't aware of the schedule.

    Both Hassan and Klosterhalfen are "selected" for both, but will DNS in one or the other.
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    They won't be listed as DNS. Rather, their Federation will confirm their entry for only one of the two events, and so they will show up on the start lists and results for only that one event. They won't appear on the start lists of the other event, and therefore won't appear as a DNS in that event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tandfman View Post
    They won't be listed as DNS. Rather, their Federation will confirm their entry for only one of the two events, and so they will show up on the start lists and results for only that one event. They won't appear on the start lists of the other event, and therefore won't appear as a DNS in that event.
    They won't, but the fact they're listed for both events blocks the possible entries for other athletes. With the current rules predetermining the number of athletes, there should really be a provision against entering events you have no intention of competing in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powell View Post
    They won't, but the fact they're listed for both events blocks the possible entries for other athletes. With the current rules predetermining the number of athletes, there should really be a provision against entering events you have no intention of competing in.
    But there isn't an event that the athlete has zero intention of competing in. They have zero intention of doing both events. I suppose the thing to do is to say that you cannot enter both events when they are clashing.
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    I think is because they have yet to decide which event they want to do? Besides, they earn the rights to enter both events, so I am fine with them doing this. Blame IAAF for not allowing the 15/5k double when both Hassan and Muir doubled in 2017.
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    Anyone has full results for this meet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFTERBURNER View Post
    Anyone has full results for this meet?
    This is probably as good as yer gonna get:

    https://trackinsun.blogspot.com/2019...trials_13.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atticus View Post
    This is probably as good as yer gonna get:

    https://trackinsun.blogspot.com/2019...trials_13.html
    Tilastopaja has full results for the meet, but you need a subscription. Here are my "Al's Athletics Tidbits" about the meet:

    I finally found complete results of the Kenyan WC trials held on the 12th-13th.

    In the M 5000, the top two finishers, Michael Kibet and Daniel Simiyu, may not get to compete, because they haven't been in the testing pool long enough to have the required number of tests. This is a problem when young, inexperienced runners qualify for a global meet. They may yet get to compete. If not, Edward Zakayo, who has been ill and finished well back in the trial 5000, is the African Champion and so automatically qualified, should the KAA want to enter him.

    In that same race, Paul Tanui, multi-medalist in the 10,000 who ran in some of the DL meets, was 10th, and 2015 silver medalist Caleb Ndiku, was last, in 14:32.46.

    Kipngetich Ngeno, who won the 800 trial ahead of Emmanuel Korir and Ferguson Rotich, has just turned 19; his 1:44.57 PB is the W U20 leader. Alfred Kipketer was 6th in 1:47.22, Wycliffe Kinyamal, Commonwealth champion, was last, and Jonathan Kitilit was DQ'd. I saw somewhere that Korir is going to try the 400/800 double, despite the 400 heats being less than six hours before the 800 final.

    In the M 1500, Vincent Kibet was 7th, Bethwell Birgen 9th. Kumari Taki, world U18 champion in 2015 and U20 champion in 2016, whom we saw in Gold Coast at the Commonwealth Games (7th), finished 4th; with Elijah Manangoi out injured, Timothy Cheruiyot won the DL to get his WC, so Taki will get to run. George Manangoi, who finished 3rd in the trial, defeated Jakob Ingebrigtsen in the world U 20 1500 last year, but Jakob has gotten the better of him twice this year, most recently in Monaco, where George set his PB of 3:31.49 in 6th, just ahead of Filip and 1.2 seconds behind Jakob. George also won the Kenyan nationals and the All-Africa Games.

    Conseslus Kipruto DNF'd, but says he will be ready to defend his title in Doha. We'll see.

    Jackline Wambui, who won the W 800, is also U20, so her 1:58.79 is a world U20 lead. Eunice Sum, 2013 world champion, 2014 African and Commonwealth champion and 2015 bronze medalist, was eliminated in her 2016 semi, then DNS in London 2017. Last year she broke 2 once, finishing 9th in Paris DL. This year, she ran 12 800 races between May 19 and September 1, gradually improving from 2:04.79 to 2:00.94 in Bellinzona, before finishing 3rd in her heat and 2nd to Wambui in the final, with 1:58.99, her fastest since July 2017. Her PB is 1:56.99 from Paris in 2015, and she has a 4:01.54 1500 from Eugene in 2014.

    In the 5000, Mercy Cherono, coming back after not competing in 2017-18, finished 4th, missing a place by less than 4 seconds. Eva Cherono, who set her PB of 14:40.25 for 6th in the London DL, then found herself out in front in Brussels when the pacemaker dropped out, leading until almost 3K before fading to 11th, was 8th in 16:11.96.

    Faith Kipyegon's margin over Winny Chebet in the W 1500 was .01.

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