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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfmiler2 View Post
    I wouldn’t classify Thatcher with the others. She had a middle class background.
    Yes she was the daughter of a shopkeeper.
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    From Grantham in Lincolnshire...Newton was also born nearby....

    John Major grew up in Brixton....and more working class than anything else..never went to university...also his father would be 140 now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor Dary View Post
    From Grantham in Lincolnshire...Newton was also born nearby....

    John Major grew up in Brixton....and more working class than anything else..never went to university...also his father would be 140 now!
    And I was wondering why you included Major in your #46.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master403 View Post
    Can I have a show of hands?

    How many believe Britain would have been better served with more Jeeves in charge and fewer Woosters?
    note to self: google Jeeves, google Woosters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by user4 View Post
    note to self: google Jeeves, google Woosters.
    Wooster and Jeeves were P.G. Wodehouse characters in a series of stories that are well worth reading and that were adapted into one of my favorite British TV series (along with Rumpole).

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeeves_and_Wooster
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    Quote Originally Posted by user4 View Post
    And they brought with them the memory of what they as Brits had done and would do with a tyrant that thought he was born with the right to rule them. Charles I and Charles II were as much or more the cause of the American founding as George.
    By George III's reign, Britain was much more of a constitutional monarchy and the King didn't have so much power.
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    Since 1945 UK has had 15 prime ministers.
    Two (Callaghan and Major) did not go to college.
    Churchill went to a military college.
    Brown went to Edinburgh.
    The other 11 went to Oxford.
    The last PM from Cambridge is Baldwin.

    Why is there such disparity between Oxford and Cambridge?
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    Probably because Cambridge is more of a science university....Trinity especially..... the political types go to Oxford to study PPE....

    OTOH ...Cambridge did have more Russian Spies than Oxford....5 at Cambridge ....and none I can think of at Oxford...
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    Quote Originally Posted by user4 View Post
    Of course you did.

    The Brits dealt with Charles I and Charles II. Of course your right to make changes in your leadership without any more than a ballot are due in largest part to the men that were willing to risk everything, life and property to stand up to
    despots.
    Don't remember much being done to Charles II, beyond giving a series of mistresses. Did you mean James II?
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