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    Quote Originally Posted by maggot View Post
    What about countries lacking international class distance runners? Then he wouldn’t have to compete in any trials, only meet the standard.

    Turkey among others did that...it was becoming a joke..so they changed the rules...that is why Cheserek is having so much trouble now. He'd probably have trouble running anywhere else other than Kenya now....
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    What is the difference between Meb and Ches's situations? Meb, IIRC, came to the US when he was 12. Ches when he was 14. It can't be the age. Is it that Meb started immediately moving towards citizenship or was his case fast tracked at some point which didn't get any notice?
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    Meb emigrated at 12 with his family from Eritrea. They had refugee status because of the ongoing civil war involving the Soviet-backed government.

    EC came over by himself in a process facilitated by the school that wanted him to run for them. By his own claimed DOB, he would have been 16 at the time, not 14.

    Those are some significant distinctions. With an intervening 25 years or so that included 9/11, I'm sure other things changed in the citizenship process that others would be more competent to describe.
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    In Luzern, July 9:
    M 3000 Tadese Worku 7:43.24 W U18 L 2) Cheserek 7:43.47 PB (outdoor)
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    I helped an athlete go through the transfer of allegiance process recently. She defected to the US from Cuba at the Drake Relays in 2013, and got her USA citizenship earlier this spring, 2019. The slow part of the transfer of allegiance was waiting for USATF, the IAAF was actually fairly prompt in their response.

    She competed for Cuba in the 2012 Olympics, but stopped training after defecting.

    She began training again for fun with a local youth club a couple years ago, and has been doing quite well, setting a lifetime best of 4.55m recently.

    She is thrilled to be returning to Des Moines, a very special place for her, to compete in the women's pole vault in a few weeks! Daylis Caballero Vega.

    It sounds like she was subject to the five year thing mentioned earlier in the thread? She did not attend school here. I don't know if coming from Cuba is any better or worse for immigration purposes than Kenya.
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    The unique, for Cubans, wet foot, dry foot policy made it far easier.....

    ... one who made it to shore ("dry feet") got a chance to remain in the United States, and later would qualify for expedited "legal permanent resident" status in accordance with the 1966 Act and eventually U.S. citizenship.

    It ended in 2017 for Cubans....so probably be much more difficult now....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor Dary View Post
    Turkey among others did that...it was becoming a joke..so they changed the rules...that is why Cheserek is having so much trouble now. He'd probably have trouble running anywhere else other than Kenya now....
    Ches is having trouble getting US citizenship. Has he ever competed for Kenya before? As long as he has three years off from representing Kenya internationally, he should not have a problem clearing the IAAF... it is the US citizenship part that will likely take a long time.

    Does the Army still have their accelerated path to citizenship? That would likely be the fastest way for him to become a US citizen in time for 2024, but there's that whole being deployed thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor Dary View Post
    The wet foot, dry foot policy ended in 2017 for Cubans....so it probably be much more difficult now....

    Ah, I was not familiar with it. Makes sense!
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    Quote Originally Posted by polevaultpower View Post
    Ches is having trouble getting US citizenship. Has he ever competed for Kenya before? As long as he has three years off from representing Kenya internationally, he should not have a problem clearing the IAAF... it is the US citizenship part that will likely take a long time.

    Does the Army still have their accelerated path to citizenship? That would likely be the fastest way for him to become a US citizen in time for 2024, but there's that whole being deployed thing...
    I don't think being in the Army these days helps much....lots of people getting deported who served....

    At this point I would be surprised if Cheserek ever competes for the U.S.....
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    Sad situation. Does it seem to anyone else that obtaining USA citizenship is a bit too complicated?
    Of course, it's not too complicated if you have $500k.
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