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    OK, I'll wade into this cess-pool of an annual forum . . . .

    It's hard to fault Trump for wanting to celebrate one of America's greatest holidays (Memorial Day and Veteran's Day are pretty cool too, though they seem redundant - whether you lost you lost your life or not, thank you for serving), but I hate the idea of vaunting our military technology. It's all meant to kill people; why would we cheer for a tank or a missile or any weapon, for that matter? Cheer for the people who serve, not the means by which we can annihiliate masses of people. We are not Hitler or the Soviets. Have a Blue Angels show to show the great skills these pilots have. I love the roar of their engines when they go straight up in after-burner! It's sounds like . . . freedom . . . not death and destruction.

    Plus, I don't trust for one second that he won't turn his speech at the Lincoln Memorial into a political rant.

    My 20 years in a combat arm of the Navy makes me proud, but I do not celebrate war or death. We don't need to glorify the machines of it.
     

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    Totally agree with you Atticus. Even though not a US citizen, I consider my 4 years serving in the US Army as one of the best things I have done. But Trump just makes me want to vomit most of the time.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuariki View Post
    Totally agree with you Atticus. Even though not a US citizen, I consider my 4 years serving in the US Army as one of the best things I have done. But Trump just makes me want to vomit most of the time.
    Yes!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuariki View Post
    Totally agree with you Atticus. Even though not a US citizen, I consider my 4 years serving in the US Army as one of the best things I have done. But Trump just makes me want to vomit most of the time.
    Nothing wrong with wanting to vomit. Let it out.

    I am so proud of him and I love it when his enemies go into high dudgeon and skreech, moan and wail. They had it really good for 30 years getting everything they wanted at the tax payers expense. Check out the most wealthy zip codes, take a walk through the DC suburbs and see tax payer funded opulence, mercedes benz bumper to bumper while fly over country works 12$ /hour for a drug addled future. When leaders abandon as their first call, the rights and interests of their own citizens it is as sure as night follows day that the citizens will abandon their leaders.

    He is not someone that was a reflexive choice for middle america. But it was the utter and complete contempt that the elites in both parties have demonstrated for middle america that gave Trump an opening. He took it and so far he has not abandoned his promises like so many other career pols. So it is not that folks in fly over country just love NYC developers and TV personalities. It is just that...

    .. when in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the bands that tie them to their elites....

    Happy Independence Day my friends!
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    Quote Originally Posted by user4 View Post
    Nothing wrong with wanting to vomit. Let it out.

    I am so proud of him and I love it when his enemies go into high dudgeon and skreech, moan and wail. They had it really good for 30 years getting everything they wanted at the tax payers expense. Check out the most wealthy zip codes, take a walk through the DC suburbs and see tax payer funded opulence, mercedes benz bumper to bumper while fly over country works 12$ /hour for a drug addled future. When leaders abandon as their first call, the rights and interests of their own citizens it is as sure as night follows day that the citizens will abandon their leaders.

    He is not someone that was a reflexive choice for middle america. But it was the utter and complete contempt that the elites in both parties have demonstrated for middle america that gave Trump an opening. He took it and so far he has not abandoned his promises like so many other career pols. So it is not that folks in fly over country just love NYC developers and TV personalities. It is just that...

    .. when in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the bands that tie them to their elites....

    Happy Independence Day my friends!
    Proud of that disaster? You must enjoy being lied to. Our enemies laugh their asses off at us as our friends cry. In spite of his ridiculous self-aggrandizement, zero accomplishments unless you're a multi millionaire or think locking people up without due process is American. Once someone lies to me everything they say afterwards is noise... this man is a pathological liar...I cannot even look at him. He openly profits from being president and hates the 60% who disapprove of him. Worst president in US history.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebee View Post
    Proud of that disaster? You must enjoy being lied to. Our enemies laugh their asses off at us as our friends cry. In spite of his ridiculous self-aggrandizement, zero accomplishments unless you're a multi millionaire or think locking people up without due process is American. Once someone lies to me everything they say afterwards is noise... this man is a pathological liar...I cannot even look at him. He openly profits from being president and hates the 60% who disapprove of him. Worst president in US history.
    Clinton started "public service" worth about 50k and is now worth north of 400million. Trump made all his money as private citizen and you say he, who donated his salary to the treasury, profits from being president. He won in an electoral landslide because middle America were fed up with public service as a lifestyle to becoming rich.

    Friends, 2020 is going to be a repeat if someone else doesn't attempt to put the US citizens interest above multinational corporate socialist statist interests.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by user4 View Post
    Clinton started "public service" worth about 50k and is now worth north of 400million. Trump made all his money as private citizen and you say he, who donated his salary to the treasury, profits from being president. He won in an electoral landslide because middle America were fed up with public service as a lifestyle to becoming rich.

    Friends, 2020 is going to be a repeat if someone else doesn't attempt to put the US citizens interest above multinational corporate socialist statist interests.
    Instead of regurgitating fart news talking points and bringing up Hillary just admit you made a horrific mistake voting for a psychopath.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atticus View Post
    OK, I'll wade into this cess-pool of an annual forum . . . .

    It's hard to fault Trump for wanting to celebrate one of America's greatest holidays (Memorial Day and Veteran's Day are pretty cool too, though they seem redundant - whether you lost you lost your life or not, thank you for serving), but I hate the idea of vaunting our military technology. It's all meant to kill people; why would we cheer for a tank or a missile or any weapon, for that matter? Cheer for the people who serve, not the means by which we can annihiliate masses of people. We are not Hitler or the Soviets. Have a Blue Angels show to show the great skills these pilots have. I love the roar of their engines when they go straight up in after-burner! It's sounds like . . . freedom . . . not death and destruction.

    Plus, I don't trust for one second that he won't turn his speech at the Lincoln Memorial into a political rant.

    My 20 years in a combat arm of the Navy makes me proud, but I do not celebrate war or death. We don't need to glorify the machines of it.
    Thanksgiving is the best holiday; July 4th had become sort of a summer turkey day. Hopefully this stain will wash out.
     

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    We'll just trade one stain for another. I'm not to hopeful for our nation politically.

    Both sides are train wrecks with unreasonable behavior and there doesn't seem to be any end in sight.
    You there, on the motorbike! Sell me one of your melons!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottmitchell74 View Post

    Both sides are train wrecks with unreasonable behavior and there doesn't seem to be any end in sight.
    Genuine question.

    What behaviour on the Democrats side do you deem to be unreasonable on the same scale as GOP/Trump?
     

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