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    With much analysing, PJ has Koch's 300 in that 47.60 as 34.22:
    11.70 - 22.47 - 34.22 - 47.60
    11.70 -10.77(!) - 11.75 - 13.38

    SMU went:
    11.3 - 22.44 - 34.41
    11.3 - 11.2 - 11.97

    She isn't in sub 48 form, but she's in low to mid 48 form. Which is still pretty damn amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriella2 View Post
    She isn't in sub 48 form, but she's in low to mid 48 form.
    I doubt that. There's a big difference between a 300 split in a 400 race and an all-out 300.
    Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...
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    A pretty good meet in the end with some fun match-up. SMU's performance was perhaps the highlight - she looks scary good - but De Grasse vs Coleman was my favourite race.

    I wonder how long we'll have to wait to see a SMU vs Naser match-up. The latter seems to be building towards Doha more slowly though so it may not be much of a contest right now..
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    Another observation about the meet. I thought the starter was on the fast side. Not much time between "set" and the gun.
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    Question: Who was the NBC Gold commentator? I did not recognize the voice and he did not identify himself either at the beginning or the end of the show.
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    IAAF Scoring tables equate 34.41 with 48.45 and 21.70 -- 1269 points -- for whatever that's worth.
    I thought 2.06 plus three efforts at 2.10 was the performance of the meet. When she cleared 2.06, she actually smiled, and after the meet she was seen hugging some of the other jumpers. She has actually been chosen as one of the "ambassadors" for the US vs. Europe meet in Minsk later this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tandfman View Post
    Question: Who was the NBC Gold commentator? I did not recognize the voice and he did not identify himself either at the beginning or the end of the show.
    I don't know who that was, but he was pretty awful, had no idea what a time for 300 would be.
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    He got a number of things wrong and was uncertain about things he should have been certain about. He mentioned that Miller-Uibo's 300 "World Record" was subject to ratification, but of course it's not subject to ratification because there's no official World Record at that distance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tandfman View Post
    Question: Who was the NBC Gold commentator? I did not recognize the voice and he did not identify himself either at the beginning or the end of the show.
    the next time you hear a really good tv announcer will be the first time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powell View Post
    I doubt that. There's a big difference between a 300 split in a 400 race and an all-out 300.
    Everyone knows that, but consider her time against others and that context:

    300m Races
    She beat these women who ran a 300m race by 1 second:

    - Guevara 35.30A...(run the same year she set her 400m PB of 48.89)
    - Cook 35.46...(run the same year she set her 400m PB of 49.43)
    - Cheeseborough 35.46...(run the.same year she set her 400m PB of 49.05)

    Analysed 300m split in a 400m race
    The only faster recorded time is Koch's from her 47.60 WR - either 34.14 or 34.22, depending on your source.

    - Koch's next best was 34.66 en route to her 48.16 in Prague 84.
    - The only other sub 35 in this category was Kratochvilova's 34.95 en route to her 48.86

    Hand timed 300m split from a 400m race (all slower)
    Sub 35:
    - 34.8 Koch en route to 48.94 Prague '78
    - 34.8 Koch en route to 48.16 Athens '82

    35+
    - 35.0 Koch en route to 48.60 Torino '79
    - 35.1 Perec en route to 48.25 Atlanta '96
    - 35.1 Perec en route to 49.47 Paris '96
    - 35. 1 Freeman en route to 48.63 Atlanta '96
    - 35.2 Bryzgina en route to 49.05 Barcelona '92

    Other notable hand times
    - 35.0 Drechsler (from one of the Sovetsky annuals courtesy of PJ)

    Miller-Uibo herself ran 36.1 during her 48.97 race from last year, and 35.34 during her 49.44 Olympic race. She has already run a 49.05 this year, just 8/100ths off her PB. She said she's in the form of her life. So, I believe she will run at least a couple of tenths faster, and in perfect conditions she could run under 48.5. But I will say she needs the right competition and will be dependent on the right track and conditions. But you cant ignore that only Koch, once, has run faster.


    Edit: Source for all of this was Peter Larsson's All Time Lists and Pierre-Jean (coach, member of ATFS, contributor to Le Monde etc.)
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