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    Quote Originally Posted by El Toro View Post
    Athlete Height Weight Density(kg/cm)
    Brits 198 96 0.4848
    Lisek 194 94 0.4845
    Tarasov 194 80 0.4124
    Lobinger 193 86 0.4456
    Otto 191 90 0.4712
    Trandenkov 191 80 0.4188
    Hartwig 190 82 0.4316
    Gataullin 189 79 0.4180
    Lukyanenko 189 78 0.4127
    Walker 188 86 0.4574
    Mack 188 81 0.4309
    Morgunov 188 77 0.4096
    Hooker 187 85 0.4545
    Stevenson 185 81 0.4378
    Kendricks 185 77 0.4162
    Burgess 183 83 0.4536
    Bubka 183 80 0.4372
    Braz 183 75 0.4098
    Markov 182 82 0.4505
    Duplantis 181 68 0.3757
    Lavillenie 176 69 0.3920
    It makes little sense to divide weight by height. Logically weight should be proportional to height cubed.
    Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powell View Post
    It makes little sense to divide weight by height. Logically weight should be proportional to height cubed.
    Yes, you are right. My apologies - beer was calling and I just slapped the table together without thinking too much.

    What Powell is talking about is the Square-Cube law, where if you double the length of a cube's side, the surface area increases by the square (4 times) but the volume by the cube (8 times).

    This geometric relationship applies to animals as strength, which is dependent on cross-section, squares with a doubling of size while body mass cubes.

    This why, as animals get larger, the multiple of body weight they can lift and body length they can jump, decreases. Fleas can jump 200x body length, humans 4.5 times and elephants don't even bother trying.

    The ratio of mass (kg) divided by height (m) cubed, is called the Ponderal Index, which is the same as the more familiar Body Mass Index (BMI), except BMI uses the square of height.

    Here is the updated table, including cajun's weight correction:

    Athlete Height (m) Weight (kg) Ponderal Index BMI
    Brits 1.98 96 12.4 24.5
    Lisek 1.94 94 12.9 25.0
    Tarasov 1.94 80 11.0 21.3
    Lobinger 1.93 86 12.0 23.1
    Otto 1.91 90 12.9 24.7
    Trandenkov 1.91 80 11.5 21.9
    Hartwig 1.9 82 12.0 22.7
    Gataullin 1.89 79 11.7 22.1
    Lukyanenko 1.89 78 11.6 21.8
    Walker 1.88 86 12.9 24.3
    Mack 1.88 81 12.2 22.9
    Morgunov 1.88 77 11.6 21.8
    Hooker 1.87 85 13.0 24.3
    Stevenson 1.85 81 12.8 23.7
    Kendricks 1.85 77 12.2 22.5
    Burgess 1.83 83 13.5 24.8
    Bubka 1.83 80 13.1 23.9
    Braz 1.83 75 12.2 22.4
    Markov 1.82 82 13.6 24.8
    Duplantis 1.81 79 13.3 24.1
    Lavillenie 1.76 69 12.7 22.3
    Last edited by El Toro; 07-09-2019 at 06:25 AM. Reason: Fixed table sort
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Toro View Post
    Yes, you are right. My apologies - beer was calling and I just slapped the table together without thinking too much.

    What Powell is talking about is the Square-Cube law, where if you double the length of a cube's side, the surface area increases by the square (4 times) but the volume by the cube (8 times).

    This geometric relationship applies to animals as strength, which is dependent on cross-section, squares with a doubling of size while body mass cubes.

    This why, as animals get larger, the multiple of body weight they can lift and body length they can jump, decreases. Fleas can jump 200x body length, humans 4.5 times and elephants don't even bother trying.

    The ratio of mass (kg) divided by height (m) cubed, is called the Ponderal Index, which is the same as the more familiar Body Mass Index (BMI), except BMI uses the square of height.

    Here is the updated table, including cajun's weight correction:

    Athlete Height (m) Weight (kg) Ponderal Index BMI
    Brits 1.98 96 12.4 24.5
    Lisek 1.94 94 12.9 25.0
    Tarasov 1.94 80 11.0 21.3
    Lobinger 1.93 86 12.0 23.1
    Otto 1.91 90 12.9 24.7
    Trandenkov 1.91 80 11.5 21.9
    Hartwig 1.9 82 12.0 22.7
    Gataullin 1.89 79 11.7 22.1
    Lukyanenko 1.89 78 11.6 21.8
    Walker 1.88 86 12.9 24.3
    Mack 1.88 81 12.2 22.9
    Morgunov 1.88 77 11.6 21.8
    Hooker 1.87 85 13.0 24.3
    Stevenson 1.85 81 12.8 23.7
    Kendricks 1.85 77 12.2 22.5
    Burgess 1.83 83 13.5 24.8
    Bubka 1.83 80 13.1 23.9
    Braz 1.83 75 12.2 22.4
    Markov 1.82 82 13.6 24.8
    Duplantis 1.81 79 13.3 24.1
    Lavillenie 1.76 69 12.7 22.3
    Awesome data! Thanks for the great answer!
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    Sasha, Mondo and Renaud had a training session together.

    I CAN'T HANDLE ALL THE POSITIVE VIBES!!!!

    https://www.facebook.com/RenaudLavil...type=3&theater
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    does this mean Sasha may end up as a Swede?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gh View Post
    does this mean Sasha may end up as a Swede?!
    Half Swede, Half French, Half Australian, Half Zimbabwean. Quadruple citizenship! Don't mind my math.

    By the way Mr. Hill my 6 year old really enjoyed your announcing at the PRe. We also had a nice surprise when we discovered we were sitting behind Don Bowden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jshapco2 View Post
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    By the way Mr. Hill my 6 year old really enjoyed your announcing at the PRe......
    glad to know I've finally found my target audience :-)

    (but seriously, thanks)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gh View Post
    glad to know I've finally found my target audience :-)

    (but seriously, thanks)
    I'm a bit older than six and I too, very much enjoyed the Pre Classic announcing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polevaultpower View Post
    Mondo and Renaud being adorable together, Part 13: https://twitter.com/airlavillenie/st...35379154264064
    You know I think these guys take off their shirts to specifically prove they arenít on steroids. Sam s pretty scrawny too. I like this trend, you donít need to bench press 300lbs to jump 6 meters!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jshapco2 View Post
    You know I think these guys take off their shirts to specifically prove they aren’t on steroids. ...
    say what?! you mean all those scrawny distance runners who get busted actually have monster pecs? Steroids can be tailored to be greatly beneficial without adding bulky muscle
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