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    #11
    Ha! I just logged in to post that!

    Tauriki will be glad that Edward said his heart is with NZ.

    I think this is where he will end up because I get the impresssion that Gus is just an expat NZer working in Aus., rather than an emigrant from the eastern isles + Edward was born in NZ.

    The only thing that might sway the decision is that if he goes with Aus., he might form the nucleous of a top quality 4x100 team over the next few years. Potentially, the young guns look like they could exceed the standard of the 1995 WC silver medal team and push into the 37s.
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    #12
    To further explore the relay option for Edward, here is a comparison between the 1995 team (AusR 38.17) and the 2019 sprinters. I've used an estimate of the '95 teams consistent capacity in the 100 over a couple of seasons, not one-off bests. The 2019 guys, I've used this year because they are all on the improve.

    Note the 1995 team ran the following sequence at WC:
    1h3 38.28
    1sf2 38.17 (AusR)
    2f 38.50

    Athlete 100Standard YOB Age
    1995
    Brimacombe 10.30 1971 24
    Jackson 10.25 1969 26
    Henderson 10.30 1971 24
    Marsh 10.15 1971 24
    2019
    Nketia 10.20 2001 18
    Browning 10.30 1997 22
    Hale 10.20 1998 21
    Doran 10.30 2000 19
    Williams 10.30 1997 22

    You can see that the 2019 guys are already at the same standard as the '95 guys but are all at least a couple of years younger.

    If they can all take another .05-.10 off their times, they should be in a position to push well into the 37s along with China/Japan/France who achieved it without sprinters of USA/Jamaica standard
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    #13
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    It would be interesting on the Aussie take if he happened to be a criminal due for imminent release from prison. The Aussies would have him on a plane to NZ in no time based on his being born in NZ. Just love the way the Ockers like to have things both ways when it suits.
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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by nztrackfan View Post
    Just love the way the Ockers like to have things both ways when it suits.
    We even try and deport Aboriginals!

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/hannahryan/...cellation-visa
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    #15
    Here is a list of athletes that have run 10.20 or better before their 18th birthday. I've also included a column of their absolut PB. Source: IAAF.

    Age17* Athlete Nat Date PB
    10.01 (+0.9) Yoshihide KIRYU JPN 28-Apr-13 9.98 (+1.8)
    10.09 (+0.9) Anthony SCHWARTZ USA 2-Jun-18 10.09 (+0.9)
    10.10 (+1.9) Mark LEWIS-FRANCIS GBR 5-Aug-00 10.04 (+0.4)
    10.11 (+1.2) Yohan BLAKE JAM 7-Apr-07 9.69 (-0.1)
    10.14 (+0.4) Roy MARTIN USA 6-Apr-84 10.12 (+nwi)
    10.14 (+2.0) Noah LYLES USA 26-Jun-15 9.88 (+1.1)
    10.15 (+1.5) Jake DORAN AUS 1-Jul-18 10.15 (+1.5)
    10.19 (+1.6) Daniel BAILEY ANT 13-Jul-04 9.91 (-0.2)
    10.19 (+1.8) Michael O'HARA JAM 24-May-14 10.19 (+1.8)
    10.19 (+1.4) Ryiem ROBERTSON JAM 29-Mar-19 10.19 (+1.4)
    10.19 (+1.5) Edward OSEI-NKETIA AUS 6-Apr-19 10.19 (+1.5)
    10.20 (+1.4) Darryl HARAWAY USA 15-Jun-14 10.09 (+1.9)


    *Haraway was 15.
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    #16
    Here's story on the same subject from the other side of the Tasman Sea:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-...ard-oseinketia
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    #17
    And here's another story suggesting that this may all be irrelevant to us--he seems to be looking forward to a career as a rugby player.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/...ike-jonah-lomu
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    #18
    Quote Originally Posted by tandfman View Post
    And here's another story suggesting that this may all be irrelevant to us--he seems to be looking forward to a career as a rugby player.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/...ike-jonah-lomu
    Read the article more carefully and in conjunction with the Australian one and it's clear that, at this stage, he would like to be both an Olympic sprinter and an All-Black, probably at the same time, like all young dreamers.

    I think the most likely thing is that he will continue both sports for the rest of the year, not compete for either nation, and then decide in May 2020, after the end of the southern season, what he intends to do.

    In the end, he will do what's best for him, noting that, in parallel to Athletics/Rugby choice, his Australian school, St Edmunds, is Catholic and his NZ school, Scots, is Presbyterian.
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    #19
    Has anyone ever been on the NZ national rugby team and also the national athetics team?
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    #20
    Quote Originally Posted by El Toro View Post
    Here is a list of athletes that have run 10.20 or better before their 18th birthday. I've also included a column of their absolut PB. Source: IAAF.

    10.20 (+1.4) Darryl HARAWAY USA 15-Jun-14 10.09 (+1.9)
    *Haraway was 15.
    Multiple sources have Haraway's date of birth as 20 March 1997, so his 10.20 in 2014 would have been after his 17th birthday.
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