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    Quote Originally Posted by gh View Post
    in his weekly answer-reader-questions feature, the SF Chron critic responded to a question regarding his top movies of the century so far (and no, this isn't an opportunity to get into when the century began debate):

    Boyhood,”
    “Bridget Jones’s Diary,”
    “Darkest Hour,”
    “Disobedience,”
    “Django Unchained,”
    “Inglourious Basterds,”
    “Lincoln,”
    “A Most Violent Year,”
    “The New World,”
    “Novitiate,”
    “One Day,”
    “Revolutionary Road,”
    “Third Person,”
    “25th Hour,”
    “Vox Lux,”
    “The Wolf of Wall Street.”
    “The Artist” [France]
    Of the foreign films (exc. Artist, which had broad release in the USA, I have seen none. Of the American, I have seen most of them and wouldn't remotely consider them 'great' with the exception of the ones I underlined. The QT ones are dreck.
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    If you go to metacritic and look up their ratings you'll see that the critcs largely disagree with themselves. This is certainly a very esoteric list, of no value except to the critic.

    Certainly "The Lives of Others," and "Downfall"(German) were brilliant, as was "The Past."(Iran), although I thought "A Separation" was better. "A Most Violent Year" was great as well (American) "4 Months, 3weeks..."(Romania) was also great. He certainly likes Tarantino. Me not so much. "Darkest Hour" great acting in average film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyp View Post
    ... "Darkest Hour" great acting in average film.
    I'm a huge Oldman fan of long standing, but I wonder how much of his "great acting" is due to the amazing things they can do with modern makeup/prosthetics? (I assume the same question might apply to Christian Bale in Vice)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gh View Post
    I'm a huge Oldman fan of long standing, but I wonder how much of his "great acting" is due to the amazing things they can do with modern makeup/prosthetics? (I assume the same question might apply to Christian Bale in Vice)
    True! Still, both actors got the voices and mannerisms down pat as well. Great Impersonators?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gh View Post
    I'm a huge Oldman fan of long standing, but I wonder how much of his "great acting" is due to the amazing things they can do with modern makeup/prosthetics? (I assume the same question might apply to Christian Bale in Vice)
    The first approximately 12 times I watched the trailers for "Vice", I had no idea it was an actor, I just assumed that it was the real Dick Cheney . Im serious. It wasn't until I started to hear discussions about the movie and the mention of Bale that I understood.


    Oldman as Lee Harvey Oswald, that was one for the ages!
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    Quote Originally Posted by user4 View Post
    The first approximately 12 times I watched the trailers for "Vice", I had no idea it was an actor, I just assumed that it was the real Dick Cheney ..!
    you are not alone!
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    ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
    Mahershala Ali, "Green Book"
    "Supporting"? Is that accurate? I haven't seen the movie, but I thought he was a co-leading actor in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 18.99s View Post
    "Supporting"? Is that accurate? I haven't seen the movie, but I thought he was a co-leading actor in it.
    you'll find this instructive

    https://www.thoughtco.com/difference...-actor-2428097
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    I'm sorry, but I find that offensive and vaguely racist (the idea that MA is merely a SA in the film). If one considers him a supporting actor, than the story really is patronizing and condescending. The white guy saves the black guy. When I saw it, it was clear to me that they saved each other.
    Boo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atticus View Post
    I'm sorry, but I find that offensive and vaguely racist (the idea that MA is merely a SA in the film). If one considers him a supporting actor, than the story really is patronizing and condescending.
    Especially when considering that Mr. Shirley was the musician who was the reason for the travels, and the other guy was his non-musical support staff -- not even a member of the band, or his songwriter or producer. If you can't name both as leading actors, it's a really strange choice to pick Ali as the supporting one.
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