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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedster View Post
    I wonder how far this rolling down will go with Doha being so late and going all that way for a sub par showing and then Tokyo close.

    This will be true of all nations and the long season might mean many more have shut it down and won't be able to accept an invite a few weeks out, perhaps less of an issue for relay runners in the sprints but not sure the same for all other events.
    Yes, it's a very bad confluence of:

    • a location that requires a late WC
    • a new, confusing, unsound and inherently late selection of athletes
    • a normal year to follow, compressing preparations for the sport's critical showcase
    • a sort of normal rest of the current competition year requiring complex preparations or absence of the sport's stars at crucial times

    Any sensible organisation would have allowed one anomalous/new arrangement in any single year but we are lucky that the WA (nee IAAF) are so much better managers than your average IntSportOrg, so expect a surge in income, prestige and TV coverage in years to come.
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    Confirmed roll-downs today for Roper, Dubler, Carley Thomas, Jenneke and Mucci (for 100mH, not the hep). Hard to know what sort of shape any of them are in. All three relays look a little light on for firepower but provide a good development opportunity for some of the emerging youngies, particularly in the women's 4x1 and 4x4.
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    Always nice to see the progeny of past stars coming into their own - Zen Clark, son of 400m CG champion and AR holder Darren, took out the sprint double at the NSW CHS titles last week in 10.79/21.67. Only just turned 18 I think and if he continues to improve over the domestic season could be nudging a qualifying mark or two for next year's WJs in Kenya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by typpo View Post
    Confirmed roll-downs today for Roper, Dubler, Carley Thomas, Jenneke and Mucci (for 100mH, not the hep). Hard to know what sort of shape any of them are in. All three relays look a little light on for firepower but provide a good development opportunity for some of the emerging youngies, particularly in the women's 4x1 and 4x4.
    That's good news. Where are you getting such info from? The work experience kid down at AA really needs to get back from playlunch and update the website: https://www.athletics.com.au/aa/world-championships/
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    Thanks typpo. A funny way to publish an updated list but still, a few extra points:

    • Mucci also added to 4x100 squad
    • Melissa Duncan, showing as selected for both 5k and 10k yesterday, is now only down for the 5k. Coach Nic Bideau must know where the effort/reward balance is.
    • "O'Grady" still lacking a first name, state, coach and club...
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    My assumption with O'Grady is that they think she might get a 400m rolldown spot, and thus have her full details ready to insert in the 400m spot. She then would be simply a surname in the relay.

    Do we know if there's more rolldowns to come?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AS View Post
    My assumption with O'Grady is that they think she might get a 400m rolldown spot, and thus have her full details ready to insert in the 400m spot. She then would be simply a surname in the relay.
    You're probably right, but I wouldn't call that best practice.


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    Do we know if there's more rolldowns to come?
    I can't see how rolldowns would work without an iterative process from the IAAF, so this is probably just the initial round.

    For example, Duncan's withdrawal from 10k would open up a 10k spot for the next athlete on the list somewhere in the world (assuming they weren't overtarget to start with).

    Whether the same processes around the world will open a spot for an other AUS athlete is unknown until it's known.
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    An AUSTEO post.

    A state by state breakup of numbers using the latest data (57 original + 4 rolldown):

    State F M Total
    ACT 3 0 3
    NSW 12 7 19
    NT 0 0 0
    QLD 4 7 11
    SA 1 0 1
    TAS 0 1 1
    VIC 12 10 22
    WA 3 1 4
    Total 35 26 61

    And allowing for population differences, Athletes per 1 million of population:

    State Aths/1m
    ACT 7.4
    NSW 2.4
    NT 0.0
    QLD 2.2
    SA 0.6
    TAS 1.9
    VIC 3.5
    WA 1.5
    Total 2.5
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    Here's the coaching breakdown:

    Coach Athletes
    Nic Bideau 6
    Brett Robinson 2
    Brett Valiance 2
    Elizabeth Mathews 2
    Eric Brown 2
    John Boas 2
    Matthew Beckenham 2
    Mike Hurst 2
    Penny Gillies 2
    Andrew Murphy 1.5
    One athlete 35
    <1 athlete 0.5
    Self-coached 2
    Total 61
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