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    Quote Originally Posted by billychuck View Post
    That was one of the best things ever. I actually cried at the end. Is Kipchoge the greatest distance runner ever, from the aspect of all-round versatility?
    Greatest marathon runner? Yes. What he has done in the marathon continues to amaze year in and year out. He dominates his event every bit as gloriously as Lewis, Bolt, Johnson, Bubka, and el Guerrouj dominated theirs.

    Greatest 5k-10k-marathon? Close, but there are others. Kipchoge has multiple OG and WC 5k medals to go with his Olympic marathon gold, and at one time was the 4th fastest ever at 5k (now #6). His 10k credentials are the lowest of the three distances, but still excellent. And his longevity is amazing.

    But Geb was also versatile, even down to the 1500, had longevity, OG and WC medals at 2 of the 3 distances, WR's at all three distances, and achieved #1 T&FN ranking in all three.

    Bekele is up there also, and Zatopek, of course, has the three golds from the '52 OG to go with his long (at least long in that era) career.
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    Good summary by bobguild of why (or at least how) GOAT discussions are entertaining but ultimately unsatisfying. That said, I'll vote for Zatopek who radically changed distance running. But Geb ... but Kipchoge ...
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    Last three minutes of race.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j329rCMOKq4
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    i think I pulled these splits together properly, but one never knows about me and numbers:

    5Ks
    (14:24, 14:37 [29:01], 14:37 [43:38], 14:18 [57:56], 14:28 [1:12:24], 14:21 [1:26:45], 14:18 [1:41:03], 14:29 [1:55:32], 6:07)

    10Ks
    (29:01, 28:55 [57:56], 28:49 [1:26:45], 28:47 [1:55:32], 6:07)

    Halves
    (61:06/60:33)

    did anybody note earlier that the 30K split is a "WR"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobguild76 View Post
    But Geb was also versatile, even down to the 1500
    PRs:
    Geb 3:33.73
    Kipchoge 3:33.20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master403 View Post
    PRs:
    Geb 3:33.73
    And 3:31.76i, still no. 2 on the all-time indoor list. Also won a WIC 1500 gold. Had he tackled the distance seriously outdoors, he might have broken 3:30.
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    So Kipchoge would have finished 16th and then 12th in today's Copenhagen Half Marathon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master403 View Post
    So Kipchoge would have finished 16th and then 12th in today's Copenhagen Half Marathon.
    Wow! Today was one for the ages. I donít see anyone seriously appaching that time anytime soon, even Kipchoge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billychuck View Post
    Wow! Today was one for the ages. I don’t see anyone seriously appaching that time anytime soon, even Kipchoge.
    When you run the second half 30 seconds faster...yes I think he can go faster...Dubai maybe..I don't see Bekele going that fast.
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    Is it time to begin discussing an actual sub-2:00?

    : )
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