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    Quote Originally Posted by player View Post
    This was an intermediate split in a 2 mile won by EK in 8:07.68 in case anyone wishes to keep track of that distinction.

    Fastest winning outdoor 3000m time on American soil is 7:35.92 by Bernard Lagat, June 7, 2009.

    Rudy Chapa's 7:37.70 from May 10, 1979 is still second fastest winning outdoor 3000m time on American soil.
    6 8:03.50 Craig Mottram AUS 18.06.80 1 Eugene 10.06.2007

    Did anyone get Mottram's 3K split in this race?
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    Wow, David Oliver , 110h in 2010, quite a year for the big man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookyMonzta View Post
    6 8:03.50 Craig Mottram AUS 18.06.80 1 Eugene 10.06.2007

    Did anyone get Mottram's 3K split in this race?
    Apparently not. Mottram was undoubtedly considerably faster through 3000m but such is the hit-or-miss nature of "record by split", even in a later edition of the same meet, as in this case.

    Pertinent for this weekend, with another fast 2-mile field scheduled with a very realistic chance of bettering Kipchoge's split mark, and Paul Chelimo in that mix.
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    Pre will have a camera at the 3K point
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    Should be ideal weather for the race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by player View Post
    Apparently not. Mottram was undoubtedly considerably faster through 3000m but such is the hit-or-miss nature of "record by split", even in a later edition of the same meet, as in this case.

    Pertinent for this weekend, with another fast 2-mile field scheduled with a very realistic chance of bettering Kipchoge's split mark, and Paul Chelimo in that mix.
    I'll have to check my VHS tape one of these days. I hope it didn't go bad after 11 years in storage, in what was the last year that I used VHS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookyMonzta View Post
    I'll have to check my VHS tape one of these days. I hope it didn't go bad after 11 years in storage, in what was the last year that I used VHS.
    I took a look and it is on youtube. Mottram did make his move to the lead just in time that he would have gotten the honor if the 3000m split had been taken but, alas, no indication or announcement.

    Colorful post-race interview.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esIV_UBEAaw
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    Upon further review of gm's authoritative list in post #9 of this thread, I note that the overall all-comers' best for women's mile is accorded to Doina Melinte's indoor mark.

    By the same logic the men's all-comers' 3000m best should be recognized as Hagos Gebriwhet's 7:32.87i in Boston on 2/2/13, avoiding any issue of Kipchoge's Eugene split..

    On the original subject of this thread, American bests on American soil, Ajee Wilson achieved that distinction this past weekend with her 1:56.86 second place finish at the Prefontaine Classic. This bettered Meredith Valmon's mark of 1:57.04 that had stood since the Atlanta Trials.

    Following are American bests in events not already listed in this thread as overall all-comers' bests. Corrections welcome.

    Men

    100m 9.77 Tyson Gay 1 Eugene 28.06.2008

    800m 1:42.80 Johnny Gray 1 New Orleans 24.06.1992

    1500m 3:32.94 Bernard Lagat 2 Carson 21.05.2006

    Mile 3:49.89i Bernard Lagat 1 Fayetteville 11.02.2005

    3000m 7:33.67i Galen Rupp 2 Boston 02.02.2013

    5000m 12:58.90 Galen Rupp 3 Eugene 02.06.2012

    10000m 26:44.36 Galen Rupp 1 Eugene 30.05.2014

    ST 8:05.28 Evan Jager 4 Eugene 30.05.2015

    4x100 37.79 Santa Monica TC 1 Walnut 17.04.1994

    HJ 2.39 Charles Austin 1 Atlanta 28.07.1996

    2.39 Hollis Conway 1 Norman 30.07.1989

    PV 6.04 Brad Walker 1 Eugene 08.06.2008

    HT 82.50 Lance Dea1 1 Knoxville 17.06.1994


    Women

    400m 48.83 Valerie Brisco 1 Los Angeles 06.08.1984

    800m 1:56.86 Ajee Wilson 2 Eugene 26.05.2018

    1500m 3:58.28 Jennifer Simpson 4 Eugene 31.05.2014

    Mile 4:20.5i Mary Slaney 1 San Diego 19.02.1982

    3000m 8:33.25i Shalane Flanagan 2 Boston 27.01.2007

    50000m 14:44.80 Shalane Flanagan 1 Walnut 13.04.2007

    10000m 30:34.49 Shalane Flanagan 1 Palo Alto 04.05.2008

    ST 9:07.96 Emma Coburn 4 Eugene 26.05.2017

    TJ 14.62 Keturah Orji 1 Knoxville 13.05.2018

    SP 20.24 Michelle Carter 1 Des Moines 22.06.2013

    DT 67.74 Stephanie Trafton 1 Wailuku 04.05.2012

    JT 66.67 Kara Winger 1 Des Moines 25.06.2010
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    On the menís side, Iíd guess the 400 and sp are closest to being vulnerable.
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    On the men’s side, I’d guess the 400 and sp are closest to being vulnerable.
    If you're looking only at US athletes, the steeplechase seems vulnerable--Jager himself has run faster than that five times in his life.
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