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    Same. She's already hit her peak recently so I expected her to be battling with Miller.
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    I think talou running the 200 will only help her get better in the 100 . As for schippers she is the opposite from what she used to be .I dont know if her coach is working on her curve running but before she was weak on the curve and had a good closing speed ...now she comes out of the curve almost in front but cant really keep up in the home straight ....Like I said 1 off year if she goes to the long distances that wouldnt be bad ...that would help her endurance get back to what it used to be and also her weight .I mean whats up with the new theory that sprinter shouldnt run long distance . Back then even Flojo could run a decent 400m ..nowadays top 100 m runners like shelly vcb kerron stewart runs 55 ,56 in 400m which is really bad . Schipper closing speed is almost non excistant now and this not hating at all .. I think an athlete (and this is my perception ) should be able to run all three 100,200,400m at an elite level . Miller should decide what she wants to run at next WC...the double will lead her to a tired leg in the 200 like last year in London ...
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    From what others have said (I haven't looked yet) the 200/400 double looks difficult in 2019. If the programme stays as is, does Miller go for the 400, seeing as she missed a medal in 2017? Then go for the double in 2020? That's what I see her doing. She's focussing on the 200 this season, she'll do the 400 in 2019 (if programme doesn't change) then double for Tokyo.
    We've been over Schippers change of race last season. It's certainly to do with her coaching change. However, this higher reps/lower intensity is what she was doing in 2016 so let's see what transpires during later in the season.

    Miller had a clearer lead here than in the CWG and that's possibly to do with lane draw. Drawn in an inner lane in The Gold Coast, Jackson ran her close. A middle lane and she was third in London (of course, with tired legs) but her two most impressive wins in 2017 and her win here were all run in outer, wider lanes. I do wonder if she'd have won by that margin had she had, say, lane 3.
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    ALTIS is useless, no? Such a big media presence and coach Stuart McMallian is always talking (and writing). But what do they have to show for themselves? De Grasse is still underperforming; UJah seems stuck at a middling level and now, even Fred Kerley, so brilliant this time last season, looks to have lost all his magic. He faded badly in the last 100m of his race today despite running a relatively slow first 300.

    De Grasse should go to a different program. ALTIS is not cutting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriella2 View Post
    22.3 is a great opening time for Schippers especially as it's only May.
    I think very highly of your comments but this time i respectfully disagree with the qualification.
    In 2017 she opened on 4/14 with 22.29 under good conditions
    In 2016 (her best year overall w 4 sub 22 and 4 more sub 22.15 and her first year as full time sprinter) she opened on 4/23 with an amazing 22.25 in the pouring rain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGsQsTDG7Mo) and ran 22.02 in May
    In 2015 she opened with 22.39 in May in the Gotzis heptathlon
    In 2014 22.35 in May also during Gotzis heptathlon.

    So in the past with the burden of the heptathlon she was running 22.3 in May. You would expect her to run faster without. For the moment 2018 looks more like a repeat of 2017, good but not "great" as she once was.
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    Sometimes we just have to just look over the times . Cause the conditions are different at each meet . An 22.36 here could have been 22.2 somewhere else ...my concern is that if she cant be in front of shaunae and jackson who are 400m specialist is a serious problem and the fact that nowadays she struggle to get passed talou which is a short sprinter definitly means something ...i am not talking about today ...I am talking about last year at London ..but all by all she didnt look bad at all ...its just that her and elaine are not getting it together lately
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDelano View Post
    I think very highly of your comments but this time i respectfully disagree with the qualification.
    In 2017 she opened on 4/14 with 22.29 under good conditions
    In 2016 (her best year overall w 4 sub 22 and 4 more sub 22.15 and her first year as full time sprinter) she opened on 4/23 with an amazing 22.25 in the pouring rain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGsQsTDG7Mo) and ran 22.02 in May
    In 2015 she opened with 22.39 in May in the Gotzis heptathlon
    In 2014 22.35 in May also during Gotzis heptathlon.

    So in the past with the burden of the heptathlon she was running 22.3 in May. You would expect her to run faster without. For the moment 2018 looks more like a repeat of 2017, good but not "great" as she once was.
    And they were all great opening races as well. She's always opened between 22.2-22.3 as you point out. So no different this year and she's consistent with what she has done in past seasons. So for me that's great. The crux now is how she develops throughout the season, because, as you've pointed out, she opened in similar times in 2015, 2016, and 2017, but by the end of the year we saw different results. Her change back to more reps and lower intensity, which apparently she didn't do in 2017, will hopefully see the 2016 Schippers again, but we'll see. She certainly has her work cut of against Miller who looks like she could drop a 21.8 again soon. But... I don't care much for off seasons, it's about how she runs in Doha and Tokyo for me. Schippers has been in the top 2 in the 200m for the last 4 years, the most consistent of all the women, and she was able to hold off Ta Lou and Miller in London despite not being in her 15/16 form. That shows championship mettle. Miller has been iffy for various reasons. I hope she sorts out her issues before Doha and Tokyo because we could have some great races!
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    That 8th place from Adams has to be one of the worst of her professional career
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    Lets not forget that Miller had a tired leg and wel Bowie and elaine were not in the race .I might disagree with you that dafne is the most consistent 200m runner .If we look out of championships she is not .First of all elaine is the most consistent ...she almost always is in the top 2 and bowie has been dominating lately .If you look how much dafne has been losing over the 200m lately .You might disagree but had bowie and elaine been in the 200m in London the results would have been different . Really different ...I think in london Schippers just had an easy path since miller couldnt even finish her 400m due to fatique and Elaine and bowie opt out of it . And thats my opinion
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    And dont get me wrong just as Blake won the 100m in deagu while everyone knew if bolt didnt false started who would have won. Same story ,different scenario .
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