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    Quote Originally Posted by thedoorknobbroke View Post
    seems to me there must be some level of knowledge/complicity involving the Karolyi's...they were USA Gymnastics
    what a surprise...the new CEO of Gymnastics USA has severed ties with Karolyi Ranch...now how about getting the Karolyi's to testify under oath that they were not at all aware of what was going on..http://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_...ining-facility
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedoorknobbroke View Post
    what a surprise...the new CEO of Gymnastics USA has severed ties with Karolyi Ranch...now how about getting the Karolyi's to testify under oath that they were not at all aware of what was going on..http://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_...ining-facility
    Uh, I think the Karolyi's are at high risk here, and likely laying very low, talking only to lawyers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gh View Post
    gymnastics—at least the high-level version—may in and of itself be something people shouldn't be subjecting their kids too.
    There is little doubt that child abuse IS occurring on a regular basis from both parents and coaches. Little kids have no ability to rationally choose the kinds of rigor they are being subjected to. This goes for lots of other endeavors also.
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    It's inconceivable to me that adults....particularly those who have children of their own...who were around this doctor weren't aware or suspicious of his actions. I hope this entire scenario is investigated and charges brought forth where appropriate.
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    The text of gymnast Aly Raisman's blistering testimony against Nassar is included in this report:

    https://www.vox.com/2018/1/19/169109...usa-gymnastics
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    Well, finally (under a 'gun'?) some changes in the board:

    While dozens more young women and girls were giving victim-impact statements in a Michigan courtroom on Monday, the organization that governs gymnastics in the United States said its chairman and several board members had resigned under intense pressure from the molestation case involving a team doctor.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/22/s...T.nav=top-news
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    Sure, NOW finally people are paying attention to the problems in gymnastics???? It only took over 100 brave girls and women baring their souls to the world, being strong enough to speak of their darkest moments.

    Nassar was a monster, but the environment he flourished in is nothing new.

    The book Little Girls in Pretty Boxes came out in 1995. Chalked Up was 2008. Off Balance was 2012. Fierce was 2017. Countless blogs and interviews have been given over the years describing the physical and emotional and even sexual abuse girls were enduring in elite gymnastics.

    Most of the media wasn't listening. The public wasn't listening.

    USAG deserves every bad thing that comes their way because they are rotten to the core.

    It's amazing that _now_ suddenly organizations are responding, _now_ that the whole world is watching and listening.

    The stories at the hearing last week and this week, some are new but most aren't. Women have been coming forward for over two years with their stories about Larry Nassar.

    USAG has known for 2.5 years that abuse happened at the ranch and NOW they cancel camps there?!?! For 2.5 years, they forced girls that they KNEW were victims of a predator THEY forced on them, to return to the place of their abuse. Over and over and over again. These camps are mandatory, they are part of their team selection process. Seeing Larry was also mandatory.

    The USOC has known about this for years. NOW they finally pressure the board leadership to resign?!

    Teenage Olympians were molested by the Olympic team doctor AT THE OLYMPICS and the USOC can't be arsed to send someone to Michigan to listen to their stories?!?! They sure seem to find the time to come to the USATF Annual Meeting when they aren't happy with us.

    USAG has had formal complaints about Geddert for years. NOW they suspend him?? Only when his victims told the world on a big public stage that Geddert walked in on Nassar molesting them and made jokes about it?? That wasn't news to USA Gymnastics. They only acted on it NOW because of the public pressure.

    Michigan State was still trying to bill victims of Nassar for their abuse. And only NOW that a 15-year-old told the world about those bills, do they decide to stop??

    I'm so glad that things are finally changing around this case. I am hopeful that Gymnastics will reshape itself and finally begin to move in a better direction.

    But I am also sick over the fact that the tipping point behind public support in this case was law enforcement finding child pornography on his computer. Until that point, many of his victims were still in denial that they were victims. The victims who had come forward were being attacked by his supporters.

    The thing is, behind Larry Nassar are thousands of other predators in sports who are abusing athletes on a smaller scale. And most will never be criminally convicted of anything. And maybe now with the Center for SafeSport open, we will see more suspensions, but ultimately, a lot of those cases will end with a lot of people supporting the abuser over the victim.

    Please, if you haven't watched any of the victim impact statements, do. Each survivor who speaks is speaking for herself (and I think some of the anonymous statements may have been from males), but their stories, their experiences, play out every day all over our country.

    LISTEN.

    Over and over again, adults were notified of his abuse and failed to understand, to protect the kids.

    Take this case to heart because it isn't just about this case. Think about what you can do to make things better for the future.
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    Oh and the NCAA. If Larry had bought one of the MSU athletes a cheeseburger, they would be all over MSU. But he sexually abuses dozens of student athletes and they did nothing, until tonight.

    NOW you're looking into it, seriously?
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    Nassar is expected to be sentenced today.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mor...cid=spartanntp
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    This is where it's probably a good thing (among many other reasons) I'm not God, or dictator of the North American land mass. Nassar can not possibly be punished in the US or Canada (or any other civilized country...) in a way that he deserves.
    You there, on the motorbike! Sell me one of your melons!
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