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    Quote Originally Posted by gh View Post
    interesting story about a pair of U.S. transgender cyclists

    <<...Jillian Bearden and Rachel McKinnon have much in common as cyclists, Olympic hopefuls and transgender women — and much in conflict as opposite poles of an intractable argument over how to balance what’s fair with what’s right.

    Bearden agrees with the International Olympic Committee that naturally occurring testosterone gives transgender women an unfair advantage in competition against cisgender women, meaning women who were born female, while McKinnon believes subjecting trans women to testosterone blocking violates their human rights....>

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ess/995434001/
    McKinnon retained her world Masters title this week. She keeps her testosterone levels under the allowable 10nmol/L, but still feels the rule is arbitrary and unfair.

    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/r...d-title-440876
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    Quote Originally Posted by wamego relays champ View Post
    McKinnon retained her world Masters title this week. She keeps her testosterone levels under the allowable 10nmol/L, but still feels the rule is arbitrary and unfair.
    ... so we're supposed to accept that it's fair for athletes born male to compete as women without any testosterone reduction? McKinnon is a self-serving bully. If you don't want to lower your testosterone, compete with the men!
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    Pretty ridiculous....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 18.99s View Post
    ... so we're supposed to accept that it's fair for athletes born male to compete as women without any testosterone reduction? McKinnon is a self-serving bully. If you don't want to lower your testosterone, compete with the men!
    Not a bully, just a self-serving cheat.

    And I blame the likes of Coe, Bach and all the other sporting leaders in power who refuse to stop this cheating, and this crapping on REAL women.
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    Well, at least IAAF cut the allowable testosterone level by half. I wonder how McKinnon's performance would change under the 5nmol/L limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TN1965 View Post
    Well, at least IAAF cut the allowable testosterone level by half. I wonder how McKinnon's performance would change under the 5nmol/L limit.
    The IOC was going to do this for all sports for Tokyo 2020, but it was reported last month that the effort was delayed.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-2020-olympics
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    Quote Originally Posted by TN1965 View Post
    Still, given the recent performance, you can end the talk about possible "NCAA title contender."
    Eastwood recently placed 2nd in a cross-country race with over 200 women from 26 schools, earning the Big Sky conference's Athlete of the Week recognition (first place was from another conference).
    https://www.montanasports.com/sports...te-of-the-week

    Running as a man at the same meet in 2017, Eastwood was 41st in the men's race (pic below is from this season).

    Last edited by 18.99s; 10-25-2019 at 11:21 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuariki View Post
    Not a bully, just a self-serving cheat.
    Bully and a cheat. Wants to compete with unmitigated testosterone against women, and calls people "transphobic" if they disagree with allowing that. That is being a bully.
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    Point taken - no disagreement from me
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    Quote Originally Posted by 18.99s View Post
    Eastwood recently placed 2nd in a cross-country race with over 200 women from 26 schools, earning the Big Sky conference's Athlete of the Week recognition (first place was from another conference).
    https://www.montanasports.com/sports...te-of-the-week

    Running as a man at the same meet in 2017, Eastwood was 41st in the men's race (pic below is from this season).

    So you think Eastwood is a potential NCAA title contender? I don't think Jenny Sandoval (who beat Eastwood in that race) is a title contender.
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