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    I always think a good lean at the line is easier for those with ragged or wild running styles; I think when you have good style & you don't waste energy moving unnecessarily with your normal running action, its hard to then throw yourself forward at the line. Felix has a very controlled technique. To then thrust forward when you're knackered is hard, esp when that technique is so 'controlled'.

    Maybe that sounds crazy, but it's what I think
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriella2 View Post
    I always think a good lean at the line is easier for those with ragged or wild running styles; I think when you have good style & you don't waste energy moving unnecessarily with your normal running action, its hard to then throw yourself forward at the line. Felix has a very controlled technique. To then thrust forward when you're knackered is hard, esp when that technique is so 'controlled'.

    Maybe that sounds crazy, but it's what I think
    I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJG View Post
    Not leaning has cost Felix many times. That is indisputably evident.
    Name them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm View Post
    Name them.
    - Rio 2016 400m
    - Daegu 2011 400m
    - Birmingham 2015 200m
    - 2016 US Oly trials 200m
    - 2012 US Oly trials 100m (Felix lucked out since Tarmoh did not want to follow the made up USATF run-off procedure. Remember Tarmoh was declared 3rd place at first)
    - Arguably New York 2010 200m
    - Arguably USA's 2013 200m


    There are probably more...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpionking View Post
    Accepted but the fail risk spikes under extreme conditions like lactic toxicity such as at the end of a 400. How do you mimic such extreme conditions under any testing protocol? I don't see many people attempt it in this event. I recall the 400 at the Barcelona Olympics between Bryzgina and Perec. Hitting the line both leaned hard and had to fight to keep themselves vertical. They succeeded but barely.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UrZ4sOlKWN0

    Here's a better video. TJS Sports on YouTube is the best, quality wise and he posts replays etc post-race. One of my favourite races from possibly my favourite Olympics.


    https://youtu.be/9KhnM8g7pag
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATK View Post
    - Rio 2016 400m -- Lost by .07. Lean would have done nothing.
    - Daegu 2011 400m -- Lost by .03. Lean would have done nothing.
    - Birmingham 2015 200m
    - 2016 US Oly trials 200m
    - 2012 US Oly trials 100m (Felix lucked out since Tarmoh did not want to follow the made up USATF run-off procedure. Remember Tarmoh was declared 3rd place at first)
    - Arguably New York 2010 200m -- Lost by .05. Lean would have done nothing.
    - Arguably USA's 2013 200m -- Lost by .05. Lean would have done nothing.


    There are probably more...
    Debunked several of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm View Post
    Debunked several of those.
    So Miller (.07) would have gotten Gold last year and David Neville (.04) would have gotten Bronze in 2008 regardless of their leans/falls?
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    Maybe when you get finished with Felix' inability to lean, we can move on to her poor start, sometimes hitch in her stride, etc.

    I guess these comments by certain posters are testimony to the greatness of AF.
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    Just to be clear, I'm disputing the idea that there have not been many times when a lean would have made the difference in Felix's races. I'm not really interested in her ability to lean or the skill it takes or whatever.
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    Just to be clear, I'm pointing out that we have NO way of knowing what good any kind of leaning action would have done for Felix. It could have actually slowed her down. We don't know.
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