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    #51
    There's an interesting op-ed piece on the NY Times website relating to the fact that women live longer than men.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/o...h-crisis-.html

    It includes this observation:

    Sex differences in hormones, immunity and genes offer possible explanations for why relatively healthy males die while their less healthy female counterparts survive. Testosterone is not only associated with risk-taking and violence, but it also appears to introduce physiological harms, since castrated males live a decade or two longer than intact ones.
    Good news for Chrystie, eh?
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    Testosterone is not only associated with risk-taking and violence, but it also appears to introduce physiological harms, since castrated males live a decade or two longer than intact ones.
    I don't know about the rest of y'all, but to me there are some things worse than death. Just sayin'.
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    #53
    "castrated males live a decade or two longer than intact ones"

    Imagine that is a pretty small sample size.
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    I'm also suspicious of "a decade or two". That doesn't sound very precise, does it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Kritzler View Post
    "castrated males live a decade or two longer than intact ones"

    Imagine that is a pretty small sample size.
    Quote Originally Posted by tandfman View Post
    I'm also suspicious of "a decade or two". That doesn't sound very precise, does it?
    This reference in the NY Times story is linked to a 2012 Washington Post story about a study (of 81 Korean eunuchs) that found a difference of 14.4 - 19.1 years.

    Story and study linked below.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/new-study-highlights-the-role-of-testosterone-in-longevity/2012/10/01/705f9acc-0724-11e2-858a-5311df86ab04_story.html

    https://www.cell.com/current-biology...822(12)00712-9
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    …worth cutting 'em off!
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    #57
    Not to everyone!
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    The question is: Why would a man want to live an extra 20 years as a neutered male?
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    Obviously, most men would not. If that information has any relevance at all (assuming it's true), it's that it could influence men who are questioning their gender and--even more--men who have decided to become women but haven't yet decided to undergo that surgery. All alien thought processes to most of us, but I would expect that the few who are facing that predicament would consider the potential benefit from the surgery as a factor in their decision-making.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wamego relays champ View Post
    This reference in the NY Times story is linked to a 2012 Washington Post story about a study (of 81 Korean eunuchs) that found a difference of 14.4 - 19.1 years.

    Story and study linked below.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/new-study-highlights-the-role-of-testosterone-in-longevity/2012/10/01/705f9acc-0724-11e2-858a-5311df86ab04_story.html

    https://www.cell.com/current-biology...822(12)00712-9
    I find that stat hard to believe. The average male in first-world countries lives about 78-80 years so that would be living somewhere between 92-99 years on the average which is absurd. You could say that without the eunuchs the average male would live only 71-73 years and the eunuchs then 85-92 but even that is absurd. Further, the eunuch sample had to be pretty small compared to the non-eunuchs so it should not affect the stats of the overall sample that much. Remember that Mark Twain said there are 3 types of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.

    Also, you should know that 79.34% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

    Did you ever hear that castration is considered a eunuch experience?
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