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    Re: USATF formchart?
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    Quote Originally Posted by G.Ahearn
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebee

    Let the newbies make names for themselves.
    If that's the case, then why don't such veterans as SRR, Felix, Simpson, Lagat, Walker, Oliver, Lolo Jones, Chaunte Lowe, Cantwell, Hoffa, Carter etc etc etc all head over to Europe and follow Gatlin's lead??
    Because they are American citizens and this is the national championship? Seems like a pretty good reason to compete in this meet.
    There''s also decent prize money, with no foreign stars to compete for it.

    http://www.usatf.org/Events---Calendar/ ... Money.aspx
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    Another interesting one to speculate about is Shannon Rowbury, who is listed for both 1500 and 5000. She's given a #2 spot in the 1500 formchart but only #10 in the 5000, which seems way too low.

    Does the formchart take into account doubling? If so, one would suppose that her 1500 estimate would be the lower estimate with the final on Sunday two days after the 5000. Or would she run the 5000 only as a "workout" (which would take the edge of for the 1500)?

    I dunno, it's all voodoo science to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Duncan
    Another interesting one to speculate about is Shannon Rowbury, who is listed for both 1500 and 5000. She's given a #2 spot in the 1500 formchart but only #10 in the 5000, which seems way too low.

    Does the formchart take into account doubling? If so, one would suppose that her 1500 estimate would be the lower estimate with the final on Sunday two days after the 5000. Or would she run the 5000 only as a "workout" (which would take the edge of for the 1500)?

    I dunno, it's all voodoo science to me!
    Rowbury is listed as "scratched" in the 1500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skyin' brian
    Perhaps the strength of the 1500 field was what deterred Rupp from attempting the 15.
    Rupp dodges strong fields?
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebee
    Quote Originally Posted by ATK
    Interesting that Justin Gatlin is not going to be running despite his pretty much invincible form this year. (running a world lead earlier this week)
    Zero upside for Gatlin(and others) to risk injury running multiple rounds in a non-championship year.

    Let the newbies make names for themselves.
    Good point.Plus he can get that money lost in incentive for Nat's on the Euro Curcuit. :wink:
    "Sprintin' ain't easy,baby !
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    Re: USATF formchart?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fourjz
    Quote Originally Posted by beebee
    Quote Originally Posted by ATK
    Interesting that Justin Gatlin is not going to be running despite his pretty much invincible form this year. (running a world lead earlier this week)
    Zero upside for Gatlin(and others) to risk injury running multiple rounds in a non-championship year.

    Let the newbies make names for themselves.
    Good point.Plus he can get that money lost in incentive for Nat's on the Euro Curcuit. :wink:
    Can you confirm that whatever meet he runs that weekend he will be making more than the prize money for winning Nationals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlow
    Quote Originally Posted by skyin' brian
    True, but entering all three distance races and scratching the one that was first on the schedule seems like more gamesmanship from the Salazar camp. I suppose they were really just keeping options open until making a final decision.
    And which, as we all know, would DISQUALIFY him from the rest of the (NCAA) meet . . . :roll:
    Question - Does anyone know if an athlete would be disqualified from subsequent races at the USATF champs if he/she fails to compete in the first event that he/she has declared?

    For example: In a recent interview, Salazar stated that Jordan will run the 5k at USATFs, but she is entered in both the 10k and the 5k and the 10k is scheduled before the 5k.

    Will she be ineligible to run the 5k if she doesn't compete at the 10k first?

    Marlow wrote that this would be the case at NCAAs, but does the same rule apply at USATF championships?

    Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this
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    To rgjp: No, there is no honest-effort rule for this meet. A scratch in one event does not eliminate the person from a subsequent event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gh
    Having said that, I figure at all levels of competition, there should be a final-decision window an hour before any final, and if anybody for any reason isn't going to be able to compete, the next-ranked person from the qualifying should be allowed to take their place. No final should ever go off with an empty spot. (or taking that another step further, nor should any semi in a 3-race sequence).
    I'm not certain you'd get a lot of takers to fill that slot. Alternates would have to go through a warm-up in case of getting in, and lots of times wouldn't get a slot because everyone would report. Sometimes the harsh rule works best for all involved.
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