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    Re: Edward Cheserek competing at Payton Jordan?
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    Mary has no responsibility to anyone else except Salazar. She has chosen not to compete for high school and apparently will follow the same path when she enters college in the late summer.

    That is a far different picture from being a freshman under scholarship in an elite track and field program. He will have a lot of racing to do in the next 6 weeks.
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    The comparison of Cain and Cheserek makes little sense. Cain was a World Class athlete in high school, good enough to make the finals of the World Championships. It made perfect sense for her to go pro as few college athletes could stay with her.

    Cheserek was a fine high school runner. He wasn't world class. He took a scholarship to Oregon and under their tutelage he's blossomed. But he took the scholarship and that determines his running fate in season. I'd be shocked if he stays four years but who knows.
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    I am going to be in SF on Sunday in the morning. I was trying to find the schedule to see if it was worth waiting around to see the meet.

    I can't find the schedule anywhere. I see on the Stanford site a 12:00am (start time? is that noon or midnight?)

    After googling for 10 minutes, I gave up. I'm not the best googler, but it shouldn't be that hard to find the schedule for a track meet, that is if you want ANY spectators at all.
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    Here is the link for the entrants:

    http://www.rtspt.com/events/stanford...c_accepted.htm

    Payton Jordan Invitational on Sunday. In general they run the prime events - the better heats of the distance races - in the evening. So, it seems that if you delay it implies you cannot leave until the next day (or a midnight flight).
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    Here is a an important 'tidbit': probably the premier race is the Men's 5000; from the story on the front page.

    The race is scheduled for 8:50 p.m. at Stanford's Cobb Track and Angell Field. Bumbalough and BTC teammates such as Chris Derrick, Ryan Hill, Evan Jager and Lopez Lomong will just have come down from their 7,000-foot Flagstaff, Ariz. training camp.
    Also, from the incorrectly DQ'ed (indoor USATF) AB:

    "We definitely want it to be a good, quality effort," Andrew Bumbalough said. "The pace won't lag. We decided as a group that we wanted it to be hard, and we've asked the rabbit to make it that way."
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    Quote Originally Posted by booond
    The comparison of Cain and Cheserek makes little sense. Cain was a World Class athlete in high school, good enough to make the finals of the World Championships. It made perfect sense for her to go pro as few college athletes could stay with her.

    Cheserek was a fine high school runner. He wasn't world class. He took a scholarship to Oregon and under their tutelage he's blossomed. But he took the scholarship and that determines his running fate in season. I'd be shocked if he stays four years but who knows.
    I agree he probably will go pro early....maybe after this year!
    As for comparing him to Cain, there are 2 points to make.

    One, Cain was definitely much more a prolific record breaker than Cheserek.

    But two, Cheserek wasn't too bad a HS runner.
    (EVERYBODY in HS pales next to Cain!!)
    Here's the records Cheserek holds from HS.

    Indoor HSR in the 5000 at 13:57.04.
    Indoor 3000 HSR at 8:05.46, breaking a 39 year old record!
    Indoor 2 Mile HSR, breaking a 39 year old record!

    Indoor 11th Grade 1 Mile record at 4:02.21.
    Indoor 10th Grade 3000 record at 8:09.86.
    Indoor 12th Grade 3000 record at 8:05.46.
    Indoor 10th Grade 2 Mile record at 8:42.66.
    Indoor 12th Grade 2 Mile record at 8:39.15.
    Indoor 11th Grade 5000 record at 13:57.04.

    Outdoor 10th Grade 1 Mile record at 4:03.29.
    Outdoor 10th Grade 5000 record at 14:02.33.
    Outdoor 10th Grade 3000SC record at 9:00.11.

    That's TWELVE records for Cheserek!
    If you do NOT count 2014 (when she was a Pro), Cain holds 21 HSR's, which includes both overall HSR's and Class records!

    But Cheserek was damn good in HS!!
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    I do not think he goes pro soon, unless he gets US citizenship. It is pretty hard to break in to that Kenyan international team level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronk
    Quote Originally Posted by booond
    The comparison of Cain and Cheserek makes little sense. Cain was a World Class athlete in high school, good enough to make the finals of the World Championships. It made perfect sense for her to go pro as few college athletes could stay with her.

    Cheserek was a fine high school runner. He wasn't world class. He took a scholarship to Oregon and under their tutelage he's blossomed. But he took the scholarship and that determines his running fate in season. I'd be shocked if he stays four years but who knows.
    I agree he probably will go pro early....maybe after this year!
    As for comparing him to Cain, there are 2 points to make.

    One, Cain was definitely much more a prolific record breaker than Cheserek.

    But two, Cheserek wasn't too bad a HS runner.
    (EVERYBODY in HS pales next to Cain!!)
    Here's the records Cheserek holds from HS.

    Indoor HSR in the 5000 at 13:57.04.
    Indoor 3000 HSR at 8:05.46, breaking a 39 year old record!
    Indoor 2 Mile HSR, breaking a 39 year old record!

    Indoor 11th Grade 1 Mile record at 4:02.21.
    Indoor 10th Grade 3000 record at 8:09.86.
    Indoor 12th Grade 3000 record at 8:05.46.
    Indoor 10th Grade 2 Mile record at 8:42.66.
    Indoor 12th Grade 2 Mile record at 8:39.15.
    Indoor 11th Grade 5000 record at 13:57.04.

    Outdoor 10th Grade 1 Mile record at 4:03.29.
    Outdoor 10th Grade 5000 record at 14:02.33.
    Outdoor 10th Grade 3000SC record at 9:00.11.

    That's TWELVE records for Cheserek!
    If you do NOT count 2014 (when she was a Pro), Cain holds 21 HSR's, which includes both overall HSR's and Class records!

    But Cheserek was damn good in HS!!
    This is an awful long post to say you agreed with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 26mi235
    I do not think he goes pro soon, unless he gets US citizenship. It is pretty hard to break in to that Kenyan international team level.
    Agreed. I don't see any major upside to going pro early. He will have a contract waiting for him when he graduates. By then he might not even be running for Kenya, a la Lagat.
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    Re: Edward Cheserek competing at Payton Jordan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronk
    But Cheserek was damn good in HS!!
    Didn't Cheserek have about a 29:00 10k as a soph?
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