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    Re: 8.51 (+1.7w) Greg Rutherford [27-11 WL]
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    1. Yes, Lewis jump had been analyzed ad infinitum and comes up way short of 30 feet. Understandably, 29 feet looks really long when surrounded by 27 foot jumps.

    2. Where can I find that Rutherford 8.51 video?
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    Re: 8.51 (+1.7w) Greg Rutherford [27-11 WL]
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    Hi.
    Is it allowed to post youtube-links? I think i have done it before.
    Just search for:
    Greg Rutherford long jump 8.51m British Record
    Greetings.
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    Re: 8.51 (+1.7w) Greg Rutherford [27-11 WL]
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    Thanks.
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    Re: 8.51 (+1.7w) Greg Rutherford [27-11 WL]
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    Not much help on you tube. .. 14 second clip does not show foot placement on board.. board official stands up, gives board a cursory glance, writes down mark.
    That does not look like a regulation plasticine tray/board. It is not elevated above board height and looks like the typical non-plasticine insert, painted yellow, used when plasticine is not used.
    That does not look like an "eagle eye" photo. the first part appears to be from ground level from a position somewhere near the pit.. the last part taken from a position before the board.
    How was the mark measured?
    Questions, questions, questions
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    Re: 8.51 (+1.7w) Greg Rutherford [27-11 WL]
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf
    Not much help on you tube. .. 14 second clip does not show foot placement on board.. board official stands up, gives board a cursory glance, writes down mark.
    That does not look like a regulation plasticine tray/board. It is not elevated above board height and looks like the typical non-plasticine insert, painted yellow, used when plasticine is not used.
    That does not look like an "eagle eye" photo. the first part appears to be from ground level from a position somewhere near the pit.. the last part taken from a position before the board.
    How was the mark measured?
    Questions, questions, questions
    you sound like someone suggesting that a Rutherford 8.51 at a championship competition would have more credibility than a Rutherford 8.51 at a fun meet in Chula Bista ..... that is just outrageous !!!

    Edit to add wink for the less intuitive types and for those that are more visually oriented

    Addendum : Imagine the outrage had someone questioned the wisdom of attributing the same worth to a fun jump in chula vista compared to say, oh, I dont know, perhaps National Championship caliber competition.
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    Re: 8.51 (+1.7w) Greg Rutherford [27-11 WL]
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    Nope. Not suggesting anything. I am stating that based on evidence available to me this,imo, is a dubious record.
    I do not understand your outrage. In my experience, there is good and bad officiating at all levels but, yes, I have more faith in fully staffed official crews at championship competitions.
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    Re: 8.51 (+1.7w) Greg Rutherford [27-11 WL]
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    I thought that was a little bit of fake outrage by user4, you know, sarcasm. Did I miss it that badly?
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    Re: 8.51 (+1.7w) Greg Rutherford [27-11 WL]
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    Quote Originally Posted by pickle47
    I thought that was a little bit of fake outrage by user4, you know, sarcasm. Did I miss it that badly?
    Could be... we need a sarcasm icon for the less intuitive among us.
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    Re: 8.51 (+1.7w) Greg Rutherford [27-11 WL]
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    The Chula Bista is what gave it away for me. Nice one.
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    Re: 8.51 (+1.7w) Greg Rutherford [27-11 WL]
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    Quote Originally Posted by mump boy
    Chris Tomlinson is making a fool of himself

    However valid (or not) his arguement is, he shouldn't be making it or basing it on some grainy youtube footage :?

    This is sour grapes and very telling about his competitive nature.
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