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    the strange case of Yinglai Lang
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    subtitled: why T&FN views marks from the Chinese National Games of 1993 and 1997 with such a jaundiced eye.

    Lang is officially the World Junior Record holder in the 1500 at 3:51.34, which would put her at No. 3 on the all-time SENIOR list. And she was only 18, with another year to go in the Junior ranks.

    According to the definitive stat database around, that of Tilastopaja, here's her entire career, all from 1997:

    800
    1:58.57 2h3 NG Shanghai 21 Oct
    1:57.62 1 NG Shanghai 22 Oct
    2:02.43 1-19 AsC-j Bangkok 5 Nov

    1500
    4:16.26 2-19 NC-j Fushun 26 Apr
    3:57.15 1h1 NG Shanghai 17 Oct
    3:51.34 2 NG Shanghai 18 Oct

    I repeat, that's her entire known career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gh
    all from 1997:

    800
    1:58.57 2h3 NG Shanghai 21 Oct
    1:57.62 1 NG Shanghai 22 Oct
    2:02.43 1-19 AsC-j Bangkok 5 Nov

    1500
    4:16.26 2-19 NC-j Fushun 26 Apr
    3:57.15 1h1 NG Shanghai 17 Oct
    3:51.34 2 NG Shanghai 18 Oct

    I repeat, that's her entire known career.
    The operative word is 'known'. I'm sure she had many other races, but there's no on-line record of them. [Nor are there of any of mine - in HS or college!]
    And 1993 and even 1997 were hardly fully on-line years, esp. in China.

    That said, there something rotten in Shanghai . . .
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    Was she a Stepford Wife??? :shock: :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlow
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    The operative word is 'known'. I'm sure she had many other races, but there's no on-line record of them. [Nor are there of any of mine - in HS or college!]
    And 1993 and even 1997 were hardly fully on-line years, esp. in China. . . .
    And you're sure of that because all these years you've been an expert in Chinese meet scheduling?

    "on line years" is a silly statement. The sport's statisticians certainly don't rely solely on what's findable on line today, and in '97 they couldn't have remotely tried such a methodology had they been so shallow.

    Bottom line is that we know with pretty good assurance that there was nothing else of significance, and nothing outside of China. And that an 18-year-old appeared from nowhere as about as good as anybody who ever ran the event and promptly disappeared never to be heard from again. As did multiple others, although not to the same degree.

    And we know that this did not happen in other meets that year, or in other years except one meet in '93.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gh
    And you're sure of that because all these years you've been an expert in Chinese meet scheduling?
    As much as I am not, I doubt - given the size of the nation, the lack of comprehensive communications, and the deliberate obfuscation they often practice - that MOST of the domestic competition is reported.
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    Thanks for the stat site. It is really helpful to know of something like that
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    It's been 20 years since the Chinese Invasion of 1993.
    Don't know what's planned for the January 2014 issue of T&FN (which will probably be published around December 1---so really is a 2013 issue!!), but it would be interesting if the magazine did a review of what the Chinese did back in 1993....and look at it from our present perspective.

    Is anything like that planned??
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    The problem with that suggestion is that we really don't have a clue as to what happened in 1993 or 1997, with any degree of certainty. Lots of interesting theories, but evidence?
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    Marlow - 20,000.
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    Ma's Army - priceless
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY3qHznw ... re=related

    93 World Champs
    pretty impressive last 700m or so
    57.xx last lap
    1:57-8 last 800

    I don't know if this answers any questions ... but winner has a very nice stride when in full flight.

    Too bad China isolated itself from international competition. The other questions/suspicions will forever remain, no?
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