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    Re: Â2013 NCAAŚw4x1: A&M 42.88
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzcyclist
    Quote Originally Posted by houstonian
    I need confirmation please. I researched media guides to glean the following information on collegeiate women 4x100 efforts of sub 43.00, All-Time. I counted an even 50 through Saturday, June 8, 2013:

    Florida State 1
    Southern California 1
    South Carolina 1
    Texas 8
    LSU 17
    Texas A&M 22

    are there any additions?
    I actually researched this a few months ago and at the time I posted this:

    • "Texas A&M and LSU have had the top two spots locked up for the last six years and they've also accounted for all 27 of the collegiate sub-43 performances during that time period."

    IIRC, Texas A&M had run 15 and LSU had run 12 during that time period. Also, I'm pretty sure that LSU has run more than 17 sub-43's in its history since they probably ran at least half that number from 2003 to 2004 when Muna Lee and Lolo Jones were on the team.

    Quote Originally Posted by houstonian
    Next project: collegiate men 4x100 efforts of sub 38.50
    Off the top of my head, I'm going to guess that TCU, Florida and LSU are at the top of the list.
    Well, i am am absolutely spot on with A&M, who has done it 22 times since 2008 , when they did it for the first time (they did it 3 times in 2013).
    I am certain also about LSU also, who last did it at at the ill-fated 2012 NCAA final. ( i count it even though it was vacated). If you think it is more please feel free to do your own count, and check me. I used every LSU media guide since 1995 to accumuate the data.
    I have Texas at 8.
    For sure, there are three other schools (South carolina, FSU and Southern Cal). The question is did they do it more than the single time that put them on the all time school's list (reference TFN lists).
    Are there any schools I have missed?
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    Re: Â2013 NCAAŚw4x1: A&M 42.88
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    Quote Originally Posted by houstonian
    I am certain also about LSU also, who last did it at at the ill-fated 2012 NCAA final. ( i count it even though it was vacated). If you think it is more please feel free to do your own count, and check me. I used every LSU media guide since 1995 to accumuate the data.
    LSU joined the sub-43 club before 1995.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzcyclist
    Quote Originally Posted by houstonian
    I am certain also about LSU also, who last did it at at the ill-fated 2012 NCAA final. ( i count it even though it was vacated). If you think it is more please feel free to do your own count, and check me. I used every LSU media guide since 1995 to accumuate the data.
    LSU joined the sub-43 club before 1995.
    Of course they joined the club before 1995, but only twice (CR in 89 and a 42.96 in 1991). One needs only to go back to media guides in 1995 to document the sub 43 efforts BEFORE then. I did find two efforts that the LSU media guide did not list. so that makes 19 efforts. here you go:
    LSU 4x100 All-Time list (women) 19 efforts
    42.50 NCAA 1989 CR
    42.55 NCAA 2003
    42.59 Penn Relays record 2008
    42.61 NCAA 2004
    42.63 Texas Relays 2003
    42.64 NCAA 2011
    *42.68 NCAA 2012
    42.73 Penn Relays 2003
    *42.75p NCAA 2012
    42.76 1996
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    42.80 2008
    42.84 2008
    42.85 NCAA 2008
    42.92 1997
    42.92 Penn Relays 2004
    42.94 2011
    42.94 NCAA 2006
    42.96 NCAA 1991
    42.99 Texas Relays 2012
    *vacated (Semoy Hackett)
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    Re: Â2013 NCAAŚw4x1: A&M 42.88
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    Quote Originally Posted by houstonian
    I did find two efforts that the LSU media guide did not list. so that makes 19 efforts.
    As I said earlier, I was pretty certain that it was more than 17. The one thing that jumps out at me is the fact that USC and South Carolina only have one each, and UCLA none, despite all the great footspeed they've had over the years.

    How's the sub-38.50 research for going? Off the top of my head, I know LSU has at least six. It's mind boggling that Tennessee, UCLA, USC, Florida State and Houston aren't in this club.
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    How's the sub-38.50 research for going? Off the top of my head, I know LSU has at least six. It's mind boggling that Tennessee, UCLA, USC, Florida State and Houston aren't in this club.

    sub M 4x100 sub 38.50 all-time (13 efforts)
    38.04 TCU 1998
    38.23 TCU 1989
    38.24 LSU 1998
    38.30 Auburn 2012
    38.32 LSU 2002
    38.35 Florida 2000
    38.38 LSU 2012
    38.38 Texas A&M 2011
    38.42 LSU 2008
    38.44 LSU 2006
    38.45 South Carolina 2000
    38.46 TCU 1986
    38.49 Arkansas 2005

    7 schools (LSU 5 marks, TCU 3 marks, 5 schools with 1)
    Provo effect: USC and Houston both set CRs (USC's was also a WR) due to the benefit of altitude

    near misses to list:
    Southern California 38.52A WR (converted from yards) -- 1967 Provo
    Houston 38.53A CR -- 1982 Provo
    Florida State 38.57
    Tennesse 38.66
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    Re: Â2013 NCAAŚw4x1: A&M 42.88
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    Quote Originally Posted by houstonian
    How's the sub-38.50 research for going? Off the top of my head, I know LSU has at least six. It's mind boggling that Tennessee, UCLA, USC, Florida State and Houston aren't in this club.

    sub M 4x100 sub 38.50 all-time (13 efforts)
    38.04 TCU 1998
    38.23 TCU 1989
    38.24 LSU 1998
    38.30 Auburn 2012
    38.32 LSU 2002
    38.35 Florida 2000
    38.38 LSU 2012
    38.38 Texas A&M 2011
    38.42 LSU 2008
    38.44 LSU 2006
    38.45 South Carolina 2000
    38.46 TCU 1986
    38.49 Arkansas 2005

    7 schools (LSU 5 marks, TCU 3 marks, 5 schools with 1)
    Provo effect: USC and Houston both set CRs (USC's was also a WR) due to the benefit of altitude

    near misses to list:
    Southern California 38.52A WR (converted from yards) -- 1967 Provo
    Houston 38.53A CR -- 1982 Provo
    Florida State 38.57
    Tennesse 38.66
    You missed an LSU performance. LSU also ran 38.48 in 2002 at NCAA's, the same meet where they ran 38.32, which was hosted in Baton Rouge. I guess there's no place like home. :wink:
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    You missed an LSU performance. LSU also ran 38.48 in 2002 at NCAA's, the same meet where they ran 38.32, which was hosted in Baton Rouge. I guess there's no place like home. :wink:[/quote]

    duly noted. correction made. The only prelim mark on the list!
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    I believe that 2002 LSU team is the only team to appear on this list twice and what was notable about them was their relative lack of footspeed compared to all the other teams on the list. I'm really surprised that Florida has only done it once since Mike Holloway isn't afraid to stretch the zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzcyclist
    I believe that 2002 LSU team is the only team to appear on this list twice and what was notable about them was their relative lack of footspeed compared to all the other teams on the list. I'm really surprised that Florida has only done it once since Mike Holloway isn't afraid to stretch the zone.
    I completely disagree with your opinion about that fast, versatile and athletic group. That was maybe the most talented foursome I have ever seen put together.
    By himself, the ridiculously talented Walter Davis was enough to put them way on top.
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    Re: Â2013 NCAAŚw4x1: A&M 42.88
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    Quote Originally Posted by houstonian
    I completely disagree with your opinion about that fast, versatile and athletic group. That was maybe the most talented foursome I have ever seen put together.
    By himself, the ridiculously talented Walter Davis was enough to put them way on top.
    Check out my response on the other thread.
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