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    Another runner from the 1960s I would compare...

    Another runner from the 1960s I would compare Elliott too was 400 meter record holder Lee Evans. As I understand it Evans often trained like a middle distance runner with many repeasts over 600...
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    Nice level of conversation about Elliott. Anyone...

    Nice level of conversation about Elliott. Anyone know what his basic speed level was at his peak - ie 400 meter dash? I know that Snell was around a 48 second 440 with Ryan about a half a second...
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    It appears that T&F News is not giving Boling his...

    It appears that T&F News is not giving Boling his due. Boling has had major articles written about him in SI and the Washington Post (twice) and yet the Bible of the Sport barely takes notice of...
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    I noticed there are many Borzov films which the...

    I noticed there are many Borzov films which the Russians probably released. Likely they don't want to remember him being walked down by Steve Williams! But I do remember seeing the film back in the...
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    Update on Boling - Junior PanAms - 4 golds: ...

    Update on Boling - Junior PanAms - 4 golds: 10.11 (legal) and also whittles down on his best, 20.3 (less impressive), mid 44s on relay. Note, the 10.11 moves him ahead of Little.
    Stay tuned!
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    Williams v. Borzov Video

    Does anyone have a video and/or more information on the relay race between these two in which the Russian got "smoked" by the American? Thanks.
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    800 meter runners stamina

    Noticed that Ferguson Rotich’s best 400 time is just 49.5. This is only 2.5 seconds faster than his two lap average 400 time (1:42 point/2 = 51 point). Is this really possible and due to more...
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    Wasn’t one of Hayes’ 9.1 centuries (yards) run on...

    Wasn’t one of Hayes’ 9.1 centuries (yards) run on a tartan surface? 1963 AAU in St. Louis I think. If so, by this logic of modernized surfaces shouldn’t he have run faster (he was clocked 5 times...
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    Let’s see. Morrow and Simes best 100 meter times...

    Let’s see. Morrow and Simes best 100 meter times were 10.2 and 10.1 respectively, both hand timed. These times convert to 10.44 and 10.34. Boling has run 10.13 legal which is equivalent to a 9.9...
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    My error.

    My error.
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    Good point.

    Good point.
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    Maybe he will run that fast in another two years....

    Maybe he will run that fast in another two years. Already national high school record holder. Many sprinters drop 3 tenths or more during college.
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    White Americans at 100 meters

    Boling is now the fastest white American male ever. 10.13 beats anything put up by Leach, Sime, Krulee, Newman, Lutz and Questad. And he is barely 19.
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    Richard Nixon

    Just finished a biography of the former president which said he ran track at Whittier back in the early 1930s. Does anyone have any information on this for instance his marks? Thanks.
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    How did a big fullback like McCallister jump 27'?...

    How did a big fullback like McCallister jump 27'? He wasn't really the breakaway back type was he? Sorry, never saw him play.
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    It's true though that the blocks were worth at...

    It's true though that the blocks were worth at least a tenth of a second. So compared to Tolan and Metcalf he would have at best just equaled them. Anyone know anything about a sprinter in the '50s...
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    Clearly off his peak by '32. 9.4 in '29 was...

    Clearly off his peak by '32. 9.4 in '29 was worth at least a 10.3 and probably a 10.2 as he appears to be a strong finisher. Nine foot stride?
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    George Simpson's 9.4 100 yards in 1929

    Youtube shows the following awesome video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAzXzE92BGs

    Does anyone know who the other runners were in the race? One runner in particular is pushing Simpson to...
  19. Thread: Ken Norton

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    Ken Norton

    Does anyone know about the boxer Ken Norton's high school track and field exploits? I have heard he was great but don't have details.
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    Isn't anyone going to write about the novelty of...

    Isn't anyone going to write about the novelty of Prandini being a white girl? I have been following track since the mid 70s and can't think of one other world class American female sprinter who was...
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    Phil Fox (Levy) Discus Thrower

    Just wondering if anyone knows what happened to this guy who was a top rated discus thrower around 1940 and competed for Stanford. Was he killed in the war? I think he threw in the low 170s when...
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    I think Jenna Prandini might beat them all once...

    I think Jenna Prandini might beat them all once she's done - she's only 20.

    Copy removed by mods at this point. I will point out to a new poster guideline No. 4 which rules these forums:

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  23. Thread: Borzov v. Hart

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    Borzov v. Hart

    Does anyone know the respective 100 meter splits generated by both athletes? The 100 meter was so controversial and the US won the relay by a lot but on the other hand Borzov got the baton way...
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    First 9.2 100 at Randalls Stadium

    Has anyone noticed in that famous race that Dave James of the Striders is over striding? Especially when compared to Budd whose form was along the lines of Owens or MJ. James seems to have been a...
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    The first time I saw UCLA Tennessee was in 1974. ...

    The first time I saw UCLA Tennessee was in 1974. Jones doubled in the 100 and 220. I think I remember him running 9.2 that day but could be wrong. As for his career in '76 I think he got hurt and...
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