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    There are historical USA lists? I've seen that...

    There are historical USA lists? I've seen that there are World lists (albeit unavailable for purchase), but not USA ones. Who might have them (I've got extra grandkids available for trade)?
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    So now I'm wondering how he gets his...

    So now I'm wondering how he gets his one-weekend-a-month requirement in; he seems to compete all the time!
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    Apparently that wasn't enough to help the Red...

    Apparently that wasn't enough to help the Red Tree Farmers in Thursday's game. :(
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    OK, I'll go look, but isn't it a little...

    OK, I'll go look, but isn't it a little 'concerning', esp. to a stat guy like yourself, that we don't have definitive (as much as they can be) year lists going back to at least back to the 30s,, when...
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    I understand his point, but . . . of course it's...

    I understand his point, but . . . of course it's still just a shoe. There's an ergonomic limit to how much 'platform' a shoe can have before it's counter-productive. 37mm is an inch and a half, which...
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    So the answer is 'no' for historical USA lists? ...

    So the answer is 'no' for historical USA lists?

    And the men's world lists are out-of-print / unavailable?

    And the women's lists are also unavailable!

    Well, that's a sad state of affairs for...
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    Sigh . . . I was just remarking on how much has...

    Sigh . . . I was just remarking on how much has changed . . .
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    Wow, in the early 70s, EVERYone in college wore...

    Wow, in the early 70s, EVERYone in college wore adidas (except some good sprinters who wore Puma, cuz the big sprinters did).
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    Taking a year off for the OLYMPICS perhaps? I...

    Taking a year off for the OLYMPICS perhaps?
    I actually think it would be a good idea to stay in school and take a lighter load, so his whole life isn't PV.
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    Mondo, as we already know, is a freak, and blows...

    Mondo, as we already know, is a freak, and blows through poles that he shouldn't be able to get on. I hope/expect for that to continue for at least 3 more years, when he will be well about 6.16.
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    US yearly lists before 1957?

    I see US year lists for 1953 and 1955 in T&FN / TN , but no others before 1957. Where would I find them?

    Or world lists before 1950?

    They must exist, yes?
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    If it were only that simple. I have been fighting...

    If it were only that simple. I have been fighting with my vaulters for 30 years to get on bigger poles. Sometimes I win; sometimes they win; sometimes we both lose.

    We have to trust that Sam is...
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    Shoe-makers have been adding and subtracting...

    Shoe-makers have been adding and subtracting materials to the shoes since Adi Dassler was a boy. How is this any different? I'd only draw the line at actual springs, but even that's arbitrary, since...
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    Lonewolf, are just now logging into the...

    Lonewolf, are just now logging into the cell-phone version of the forum? It just looks different.
  15. Spot on, Jazz.

    Spot on, Jazz.
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    Onion-worthy.

    Onion-worthy.
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    That just sounds like savvy marketing. It's all...

    That just sounds like savvy marketing. It's all just about selling shoes.
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    Speaking of which . . . you are assuming I didn't...

    Speaking of which . . . you are assuming I didn't do MY homework. Which, of course, I did. Here's a representative article:
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    To be clear, I do believe they are the 'fastest'...

    To be clear, I do believe they are the 'fastest' shoes on the market, because I trust Nike, in pursuit of the bottom line, to do their homework. And I do believe EK's sub-2 was helped by them. But so...
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    We'll agree to disagree. My expertise is in...

    We'll agree to disagree. My expertise is in semantics, and I am certain that the term "4% energy return", though very meaningful to the engineers who designed it, is a meaningless term in any...
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    There is no conversion . . . every athlete and...

    There is no conversion . . . every athlete and every situation is different. It is a meaningless term.
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    Exactly my point. It's a meaningless term in this...

    Exactly my point. It's a meaningless term in this context.
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    Fiberglass poles did a whole lot more than that!!...

    Fiberglass poles did a whole lot more than that!!
    These so-called three 'deviations' have another term that applies: 'progress' in shoe technology.
    I am definitely calling BS on the iAAF.
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    If the Vaporfly really did give a 4% advantage,...

    If the Vaporfly really did give a 4% advantage, that should correlate directly to running time (not just the nebulous term, 'energy'), which would have been about 5 minutes. It was less, and well...
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    Virtually everything about T&F today has been...

    Virtually everything about T&F today has been 'enhanced' since the early days. Lighter shoes provide an advantage over heavier ones. Blocks provide an advantage over no blocks. Track and spikes...
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