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    Kejelcha was born 2 years before El G's WR (1997)...

    Kejelcha was born 2 years before El G's WR (1997) run and Tefera was born 3 months after El G's run (1999). Someone born in 2004 would equal Taber's feat of putting Walter George down to number 2...
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    If I recall correctly, Walter George held the...

    If I recall correctly, Walter George held the professional mile record set in 1886 and it was not broken until 1915 by Norman Taber, which would be 29 years. John Paul Jones broke the official...
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    Didn’t dj ask this question about a month ago?...

    Didn’t dj ask this question about a month ago? This is a good test of recent memory for us septuagenarians which is also a test for spelling at any age level.
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    bambam1729: This morning's Chicago Tribune August...

    bambam1729: This morning's Chicago Tribune August 29, 2019, Sports section page 6 has notice of "Rambler Set World Indoor Mile Mark: Tom O'Hara 1942-2019.
    Article from Loyola University notice of...
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    Tom passed away last night in his home, Lombard,...

    Tom passed away last night in his home, Lombard, iL. He had a slow progressive dementia and had previous coronary bypasses in last 5 years. Obituary notice being planned by family today.
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    Tom O’Hara RIP

    Just received call from family that Tom O’Hara passed away last night. We were long time friends, running buddies, and shared same coach. He was an unbelievable athlete and determined runner who...
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    What is connection with gh? I thought Canadian...

    What is connection with gh? I thought Canadian but mileage was not consistent. Did gh do the TJ in college? What was his distance compared to Nick Winter?
  8. Thanks Django for the feed back on H.E.'s fight...

    Thanks Django for the feed back on H.E.'s fight with Mr Levitt on turning pro. I had to pull out the September 21, 1958 Sports Illustrated issue with Elliott on the cover and several pages were...
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    I vote with Warmego relays Champ and DoubleRBar...

    I vote with Warmego relays Champ and DoubleRBar that the timer stands are for finish lines not starting lines and the one at end of straightaway was for the 100 yd and 120 yd HH finish lines. The...
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    Gary C: Thanks for all of your texts on your...

    Gary C: Thanks for all of your texts on your father's legacy. I read them but haven't replied until now. I did not meet your Father but grew up in knowing about the long distance runner every time I...
  11. Yes, gh, I was surprised at the reference of the...

    Yes, gh, I was surprised at the reference of the $250,000 offer. The story comes from the "Racing Past:The History of Middle and Long Distance Running. I believe written by John Colby.
    It is a six...
  12. I agree Conor that Clarke may have a better...

    I agree Conor that Clarke may have a better personal perspective of Elliott being from Australia and an athlete in the same era.

    If you type "Herb Elliott interviews" into internet the first two...
  13. I listened to Clarke's several times in the...

    I listened to Clarke's several times in the interview with the section he talks about Elliott and Clarke never says "Elliott told me" that "he regretted quitting so young"
    Clarke says: "I think"...
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    The way Courtney told me and it is reviewed in...

    The way Courtney told me and it is reviewed in his book was that Olympic Coach Kelly had the four 440 runners have a time trial against Courtney one week before OG in Australia. Courtney beat all...
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    I met Tom Courtney about 1 1/2 yrs ago for brunch...

    I met Tom Courtney about 1 1/2 yrs ago for brunch in Florida and what a great human being. Extremely witty with Irish humor and very successful attorney for corporate world. He was just finishing his...
  16. El Toro has the correct version in the 2001...

    El Toro has the correct version in the 2001 Elliott interview. It is almost word for word the description that Elliott told in his autobiography (the next to the last page of his book).
    I have tried...
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    Yes, one C. Moore is alive, the other C. Moore...

    Yes, one C. Moore is alive, the other C. Moore passed away some 20 years ago. Clayton Moore went to Senn High Scool in Chicago, about 2 miles from my house. Whenever we all would pass Senn on way to...
  18. This is a tough question and their is no correct...

    This is a tough question and their is no correct answer, just opinions.
    I would definitely pick Elliott over Snell, and Ryun over Snell.
    The Elliiott/Ryun dual is close in my mind, only because it...
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    No I was never near O'Hara. Groth got 2nd and the...

    No I was never near O'Hara. Groth got 2nd and the gold medal, I believe in around 4:05.2

    I remember there were tiny red flags ( maybe 10-12 inches) at the 1500 meter line at end of first turn,...
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    Dear Master Pro: Tom O'Hara did run an amazing...

    Dear Master Pro: Tom O'Hara did run an amazing altitude mile in 1963 in Albuquerque which is around 5300 feet above sea level. He ran 4:04.8 when WR by Snell was 3:54.4 (I calculated a 95.8% of WR...
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    Sorry dj, I had to do research and it is an...

    Sorry dj, I had to do research and it is an unbelievable question and answer. Everyone who says Jim Ryun came close in a way??
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    Wild guess, 1968 and maybe 1500/mile ( 3rd lap)...

    Wild guess, 1968 and maybe 1500/mile ( 3rd lap) race as warmup for OG Trials. Could be Ryun, Patrick, or Liquori.
  23. Yes, Dejango, I too was an aspiring miler in 1958...

    Yes, Dejango, I too was an aspiring miler in 1958 and don't remember hearing or seeing anything about Herb Elliott's WR in 1958, like DoubleRBar.
    Over the next three years, however, I found myself...
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    Thanks bambam1729, great to see you return with...

    Thanks bambam1729, great to see you return with vital news to all of us.
    There is a great YouTube video about 18 min showing Heatley passing Japan’s Kokicchi Tsuburoya 150m from finish.
    Also the...
  25. Thread: 1964 AAU's

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    July 11, 1957 three Finnish runners, all with the...

    July 11, 1957 three Finnish runners, all with the same first name broke 1500m WR in Turku with places first and second in photo finish with exact same times.

    Roszvolgyi held existing WR at 3:40.6...
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