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    Almost forgot - include women Babe Didrikson...

    Almost forgot - include women

    Babe Didrikson Zaharias - greatest female athlete of 1930, greatest golfer of late 1940s-early 1950s

    JJK could also be considered - obvious greatest in T&F, played...
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    Yeah, I do. Jim Brown - greatest running back of...

    Yeah, I do. Jim Brown - greatest running back of all-time, greatest lacrosse player of all-time.

    Jim Thorpe - greatest all-rounder in his era, greatest football player in his era

    No way Wilt is...
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    Rod Marsh's brother was Graham Marsh, an...

    Rod Marsh's brother was Graham Marsh, an excellent Australian golfer in the 1970s-80s, who played on the PGA Tour for a few years in the late 70s. Played with him a few times. He is not the answer to...
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    Herschel Walker was an amazing specimen but I...

    Herschel Walker was an amazing specimen but I wouldn't go that far, not as long as Jim Brown played in the league. Greatest lacrosse player of all-time per some experts, greatest running back ever...
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    IMHO, Bob Hayes was unquestionably the fastest...

    IMHO, Bob Hayes was unquestionably the fastest human ever, until Usain Bolt came along. And like Atticus, Hayes at his best vs Bolt at his best would have been a race I would love to have seen
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    Branch was not in the top 10. For this part of...

    Branch was not in the top 10.

    For this part of the thread, we definitely need Brutal / Texas back!
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    They had Holliday somewhere around 8-10 in the...

    They had Holliday somewhere around 8-10 in the list - can't remember, but they did list him. Once again they had no clue how fast he was.

    I suspect the guys who put together this list had never...
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    Dave Sime is his grandfather so he has the genes...

    Dave Sime is his grandfather so he has the genes for speed
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    One other basketball - volleyball combo and a big...

    One other basketball - volleyball combo and a big one

    Elena Della Donne - recent MVP of the WNBA signed to play hoops at U Conn but left school before actually enrolling and decided to go to U...
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    I stand corrected. Have you ever noticed nobody...

    I stand corrected. Have you ever noticed nobody ever says "I sit corrected"?
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    Yeah, well, I don't care about a thing Dabo...

    Yeah, well, I don't care about a thing Dabo Sweeney says since his famous quote that he would not want to coach college football if the kids were paid - while he collects his $8 million salary along...
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    Yes, I don't think Wilt ever played the 6-person...

    Yes, I don't think Wilt ever played the 6-person indoor version. He always played beach.
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    Saw a thing yesterday on youtube - almost posted...

    Saw a thing yesterday on youtube - almost posted it here. It was a ranking of the 10 fastest NFL players ever. They ranked Bob Hayes #5. Henry Carr was not listed. Darrell Green was #1. Bo Jackson...
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    And reading the Budinger entry on Wikipedia he...

    And reading the Budinger entry on Wikipedia he was actually the high school player of the year in volleyball, not just an All-American
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    Yes, Keith Erickson is a great example. You have...

    Yes, Keith Erickson is a great example. You have it exactly right
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    Pretty good article on eradication of diseases...

    Pretty good article on eradication of diseases and vaccines - https://www.quantamagazine.org/why-smallpox-is-no-more-but-polio-and-other-diseases-persist-20191203/
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    OK, guys, don't everybody answer at once. I can't...

    OK, guys, don't everybody answer at once. I can't process all these answers that quickly.

    I figured this was a mega-long shot.
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    Look up Chase Budinger -...

    Look up Chase Budinger - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_Budinger.

    Played basketball at Arizona although he had been a high school all-American in volleyball in high school - he debated...
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    There are tough, tough coaches and there are...

    There are tough, tough coaches and there are limits. I loved Lombardi and he was thought to be plenty tough. But my favorite Lombardi story is in Jerry Kramer's book Instant Replay. Kramer related...
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    Chief of sports medicine at Duke for many years...

    Chief of sports medicine at Duke for many years was a guy named Frank Bassett. Frank played football for Bear Bryant at Kentucky (before Texas A&M, before Alabama). I asked him once what Bear Bryant...
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    I think you're right, jazzy, but I guess I meant...

    I think you're right, jazzy, but I guess I meant the absolute greatest coaches - Lombardi, Wooden, Krzyzewski, Dean Smith - and I would include Anson Dorrance in that pantheon. However, you're right...
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    No

    No
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    Disagree with that. I think the absolute greatest...

    Disagree with that. I think the absolute greatest coaches would be great in any era. Wooden would win today. Lombardi would win today. Krzyzewski and Belichick could win 50 years from now if he were...
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    New South Wales A&M University

    New South Wales A&M University
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    May be silly but I would disagree that Anson...

    May be silly but I would disagree that Anson Dorrance is/was an excellent coach. He's way better than that. One of the greatest college coaches of all-time in any sport, even if he wears the wrong...
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