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    Is there a list for the presumptive US team yet?...

    Is there a list for the presumptive US team yet? Is there one somewhere with contingencies?
  2. I didn't groan. I laughed. If authorities don't...

    I didn't groan. I laughed. If authorities don't allow the trans MTF to beat up on the girls in athletic competition it will destroy their lives! My sympathy was not aroused. There are people who...
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    No way that could be safe. He would have to be...

    No way that could be safe. He would have to be leg 1 which stays in the lane. The safety problem is because those blades don't go linearly down the lane like lower legs. They are flung side to...
  4. The steeplechase seems the most logical event for...

    The steeplechase seems the most logical event for Semenya and Wambui if they want to compete in championships in the future assuming ruling holds and they don't want to do the hormone treatment. ...
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    I just rewatched the 400 m final. If the race is...

    I just rewatched the 400 m final. If the race is close enough at the tape (and that happens often!), Leeper's blades could seriously take out someone's legs in an adjacent lane.
  6. Certainly moves all the XX women up one slot in...

    Certainly moves all the XX women up one slot in the rankings, actually 3 in most cases.
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    Blade running is a different event than what the...

    Blade running is a different event than what the other competitors are running. As pointed out, in the 400 the blade runners don't even look similar because of the huge negative split. The...
  8. It was a package deal. Obviously the other party...

    It was a package deal. Obviously the other party is worth twice whatever he got.
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    Is everyone qualified supposed to be listed?

    Is everyone qualified supposed to be listed?
  10. If there were a disease/condition that women with...

    If there were a disease/condition that women with ovaries could develop that simultaneously (at least potentially) (1) made them better athletes because of higher androgens and (2) had negative...
  11. yeah, it's a tiny group. The women's division...

    yeah, it's a tiny group. The women's division exists because it's 1/2 the planet that would have no chance of winning otherwise. Being extra-inclusive into the restricted division defeats the whole...
  12. Agreed pt. 1: no pharmaceutical treatment should...

    Agreed pt. 1: no pharmaceutical treatment should be asked of anyone.
    Disagreement on pt.2 is on the begged question that a XY person with 5-ARD should be considered a male with DSD or a female with...
  13. Twitter probably bans holders of the opposing...

    Twitter probably bans holders of the opposing point of view.
  14. It's an LGBT rights issue for the you are...

    It's an LGBT rights issue for the you are completely the sex you identify as group.
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    The competitors must want a pretty crisp 800.

    The competitors must want a pretty crisp 800.
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    Melissa Bishop is entered in the 1500, which...

    Melissa Bishop is entered in the 1500, which appears to be very interesting. Houlihan and Kipyegon opener plus Muir and Tsegay among 16 in a non-diamond league event. Can't tell who is pacing.
  17. At least in championship competitions, there...

    At least in championship competitions, there shouldn't be handicapping. I guess that's a your mileage may vary, but you end up in more controversy about how much the handicap is and whether its...
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    Timothy Kitum was 17 when her ran 1:42.53 in 2012.

    Timothy Kitum was 17 when her ran 1:42.53 in 2012.
  19. The edge cases will always be controversial if...

    The edge cases will always be controversial if the line is tight, seeing how they are controversial with what appears to be a very very loose line. The controversy should be limited to where to draw...
  20. Paragraph 292 is closest to direct statement...

    Paragraph 292 is closest to direct statement (present case in quote means Semenya):
    292. The IAAF states that unlike in Chand, the present case "is not about biological females and how their bodies...
  21. That is what has finally been confirmed. Not...

    That is what has finally been confirmed. Not unique. Don't think it's directly stated as you have done. What's admitted is the applicability of the regulations to Semenya and the experience with...
  22. Looks like IAAF is going to have to be that blunt...

    Looks like IAAF is going to have to be that blunt at some point. From the new article on the front page: "Marie Demetriou, a lawyer specialising in equality law and human rights, told the court the...
  23. The effort of showing competitive advantage,...

    The effort of showing competitive advantage, using the proxy of androgen sensitivity, is why they were doing the invasive tests that offend most everyone's sensibility. To rewrite your equation, the...
  24. This is a little out of context. Vazel is trying...

    This is a little out of context. Vazel is trying to discredit Bermon, a key IAAF witness, hoping the hearsay quote shows Bermon is being ridiculous.
    Your next post shows that the IAAF really does...
  25. Sure wish they would have paid Semenya to go away...

    Sure wish they would have paid Semenya to go away in 2009 on the basis that they didn't have clear participation rules rather than trying to force fit her into the womens category.
    When I first...
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