Facts, Not Fiction

 
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    08-20-2019, 07:47 PM
    Yes, gh, I was surprised at the reference of the $250,000 offer. The story comes from the "Racing Past:The History of Middle and Long Distance...
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    08-20-2019, 05:05 PM
    I agree Conor that Clarke may have a better personal perspective of Elliott being from Australia and an athlete in the same era. If you type "Herb...
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    08-19-2019, 05:17 PM
    I listened to Clarke's several times in the interview with the section he talks about Elliott and Clarke never says "Elliott told me" that "he...
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    08-18-2019, 10:16 PM
    midwestfan replied to a thread Off We Go..... in Historical
    The way Courtney told me and it is reviewed in his book was that Olympic Coach Kelly had the four 440 runners have a time trial against Courtney one...
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    08-17-2019, 05:22 PM
    midwestfan replied to a thread Off We Go..... in Historical
    I met Tom Courtney about 1 1/2 yrs ago for brunch in Florida and what a great human being. Extremely witty with Irish humor and very successful...
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    08-14-2019, 02:24 PM
    El Toro has the correct version in the 2001 Elliott interview. It is almost word for word the description that Elliott told in his autobiography (the...
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    08-13-2019, 02:04 AM
    midwestfan replied to a thread The Lone Ranger in Historical
    Yes, one C. Moore is alive, the other C. Moore passed away some 20 years ago. Clayton Moore went to Senn High Scool in Chicago, about 2 miles from my...
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    08-10-2019, 10:16 PM
    This is a tough question and their is no correct answer, just opinions. I would definitely pick Elliott over Snell, and Ryun over Snell. The...
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    08-09-2019, 01:24 AM
    No I was never near O'Hara. Groth got 2nd and the gold medal, I believe in around 4:05.2 I remember there were tiny red flags ( maybe 10-12...
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    08-08-2019, 08:53 PM
    Dear Master Pro: Tom O'Hara did run an amazing altitude mile in 1963 in Albuquerque which is around 5300 feet above sea level. He ran 4:04.8 when WR...
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    08-08-2019, 06:20 PM
    Sorry dj, I had to do research and it is an unbelievable question and answer. Everyone who says Jim Ryun came close in a way??
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    08-08-2019, 03:02 PM
    Wild guess, 1968 and maybe 1500/mile ( 3rd lap) race as warmup for OG Trials. Could be Ryun, Patrick, or Liquori.
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    08-07-2019, 10:07 PM
    Yes, Dejango, I too was an aspiring miler in 1958 and don't remember hearing or seeing anything about Herb Elliott's WR in 1958, like DoubleRBar....
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    08-04-2019, 08:41 PM
    midwestfan replied to a thread Basil Heatley in Historical
    Thanks bambam1729, great to see you return with vital news to all of us. There is a great YouTube video about 18 min showing Heatley passing Japan’s...
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    08-03-2019, 02:48 PM
    midwestfan replied to a thread 1964 AAU's in Historical
    July 11, 1957 three Finnish runners, all with the same first name broke 1500m WR in Turku with places first and second in photo finish with exact...
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    08-02-2019, 12:20 AM
    midwestfan replied to a thread 1964 AAU's in Historical
    You are right KDFINE, a quick move of my typing fingers reversed the 5 and the 2. How does/did the AAU handle the listing of the AR for Two Miles...
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    07-30-2019, 08:09 PM
    midwestfan replied to a thread 1964 AAU's in Historical
    Thanks Master 403 for SI front view of OT-F 1500 m race. I wish there were photos like T&F News had in the 1964 NCAA 10,000m dead heat finish of Jim...
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    07-29-2019, 04:11 PM
    midwestfan replied to a thread Drake Relays Record in Historical
    Yes, Welcome back. Your expertise is needed. Having been recuperating from a ? sacro-iliac joint tear that was pretty bad from just twisting oin a...
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    07-28-2019, 11:04 PM
    midwestfan replied to a thread Drake Relays Record in Historical
    "Kiss me mother dear" Those were the last words from George Saling to his mother in hospital 5 minutes before he died. According to St. Louis Post...
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    07-22-2019, 10:00 PM
    midwestfan replied to a thread 1964 AAU's in Historical
    Django, you got that memory correct, weather was horrible to warm up with I called muggy which meant as you said "oppressively humid". gh:...
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