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    All sorts of mixed messages there, but I'm glad she feels better. We all wish her the very best.
    I'm still a big fan.
    Ditto. Not being a big fan of Facebook, it took something like this to make me check in. I hope that she is REALLY doing well. People still love her and screw the ones who were titillated by all of the disturbing stuff that came out a couple of years ago.

    She posted the terrible story on her Facebook about that Penn State runner (800 meter specialist Madison Holleran) who jumped to her death from a parking garage. Suzy has always been an advocate for suicide prevention programs.

    Sadly this story reminds me of the female distance runner who jumped from a bridge in Indy after running in nationals. I think that was back in the late 80's or early 90's. I've forgotten her name now.
    Her name is Kathy Ormsby.
    It was during the NCAA championship 10K in 1986.
    She had set the CR earlier that spring at 32:36.2.
    Her main rival was Stephanie Herbst of Wisconsin.

    They were running neck and neck when, all of a sudden, Ormsby runs off the track, up the steps, and out of the stadium.
    Kept running, came to a bridge, and jumped.
    She remains paralyzed to this day.
    She's probably around 47 or 48 years old now.

    BTW, Herbst went on to win the race, and broke Ormsby's record with her 32:32 time!

    Want the whole story......of both runners, that race, and the entire women's running scene at the time?
    Read Frank Murphy's incredible book "The Silence of Great Distance"!
    It has the history of women's modern track (Doris Heritage, Kazankina, Decker Slaney, etc etc.
    It has the psychology of women runners, their eating disorders and other emotional/psychological barriers peculiar to female distance runners.
    Has several great historic photos....of Ormsby and Herbst, and even Suzy Favor (Hamilton)....who also went to Wisconsin, like Herbst!!
    And it goes into depth on how it greatly affected Herbst afterward too!
    One of the best books I've ever read on T&F!!
    Find it on Amazon....really cheap.
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    She posted the terrible story on her Facebook about that Penn State runner (800 meter specialist Madison Holleran) who jumped to her death from a parking garage.
    Penn, not Penn State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronk
    Her name is Kathy Ormsby. It was during the NCAA championship 10K in 1986.
    Kathy was shipped back to Duke Hospital for later care. When I was an orthopaedic resident that year I briefly took care of her. Horrible story.
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    My concern with her picture and post is that it shows her issues are still bubbling below (and maybe not much below) the surface. If my guesses about her issues are correct she, and her support system, will need to be on guard for relapses. I was a fan of her running, but after that "fake" fall and her dissembling about it I realized she had some barriers to overcome. I wish her the best too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronk
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    They were running neck and neck when, all of a sudden, Ormsby runs off the track, up the steps, and out of the stadium….
    Actually, Ormsby was in 4th at the time. No steps involved; kept going when she reached the end of the backstretch and clambered over a 7-foot chain link fence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronk
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    They were running neck and neck when, all of a sudden, Ormsby runs off the track, up the steps, and out of the stadium….
    Actually, Ormsby was in 4th at the time. No steps involved; kept going when she reached the end of the backstretch and clambered over a 7-foot chain link fence.
    I'm not sure what really happened that day, but the Sports Illustrated article about the situation did say she ran up a set of steps into the stands right after leaving the track, so maybe that's where aaronk got his information from.
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    well come to think of it (I saw it at the time), she would have run up a very short and shallow set of stands when exiting the track at that point. The original statement created in my head an image of running up through the crowd in a real stadium sense, when in truth it was a basically uninhabited section of backstretch with just a few rows of bleachers.
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    This just in:


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    Suzy Favor Hamilton to Run LA Marathon for Charity

    Three-time Olympian makes quiet return to running scene.

    By Scott Douglas
    January 28, 2014

    Three-time Olympian Suzy Favor Hamilton will run the LA Marathon on March 9 as part of a charity team.

    http://www.runnersworld.com/general-int ... or-charity
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    Thanks for the info about Kathy Ormsby. I remember that name now.

    I'll look up that book, aaronk. All of this was already making me think about how different female runners, particularly distance runners, are from guys. My daughter went through the eating disorder thing when she was running track in college and it seemed like more than a few of the girls had various "issues".

    But I'd be willing to bet that more than a few of us find the women infinitely more interesting than the men! I always say that my favorite sport is women's track and field and my second favorite is men's track and field.
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    I used to see her around (very) sporadically, but have not run in to her of late. Possibly the last time was the Big Ten meet in 2012.

    Having had more personal experience with some of these issues, I cut her a lot of slack and get a bit annoyed at comments some make (not so much on this site, of course).

    As for the Ormsby case, my memory is much as gh cited. Also, women's track and field always seems more human then men's track and field, so I concur with Bob's comment.
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